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Old 11-09-2019, 11:13 AM
Wsoxmike59 Wsoxmike59 is offline
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Some great responses in this thread. I think both John and Kaat are more than deserving for entry in the HOF. My criteria is at least a decade of dominance or excellence. For Pitchers I like to look at their best 162 game stretch of their career, and if the W-L totals equal what usually qualifies a 1st place or Pennant Winning team, I think that puts their name in the discussion.

Looking at both Pitchers most productive portions of their career Tommy John’s from 1965-1980, and Jim Kaat’s from 1962-1976 both Pitchers compiled impressive W-L records. Through good health, medical science and good old fashioned hard work and training they were able to extend their careers for an extraordinarily long time and edge their numbers even closer to Cooperstown doorstep.

Jim Kaat Pitching Stats for Years 1962 to 1976
Year Tm
1962-1976 MIN,CHW,PHI
per 162 games
Year Tm W L W- Pct ..ERA
1962-1976 MIN,CHW,PHI [W] 237 [L] 177 .572 3.23

Tommy John Pitching Stats for Years 1965 to 1980
Year Tm

1965-1980 CHW,LAD,NYY
per 162 games
Year Tm
▲ ... W L W-L%. ERA
1965-1980 CHW,LAD,NYY [W] 212 [L] 140 .602 3.00

"(Shoeless Joe) Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." ------ Connie Mack..........................."I copied (Shoeless Joe) Jackson's style because I thought he was the greatest natural hitter I ever saw. He's the guy who made me a hitter."------ Babe Ruth"

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