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Old 01-24-2013, 03:47 PM
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Default 2013 Chicago White Sox Pitching Staff

1. Peavy ---3.37ERA
2. Sale ---3.05ERA
3. Floyd ---4.29ERA
4. Danks ---4.12(career)
5. Qunitana ---3.76ERA

CL-Reed ---4.75ERA
SU-Crain ---2.44ERA
SU-Thornton ---3.46ERA
MR-Lindstrom ---2.61ERA
MR-Veal ---1.38ERA
MR-Jones ---2.39ERA
LR/MR- Santiago ---3.33ERA

Barring some injuries or trades, or disastrous spring training outings (which really don't matter) We have our 2013 Pitchers set. Even if Peavy, Sale, and Quintana come back to reality a little we still have 5 starters with sub 4 era potential this year. Our Bullpen has some skewed ERAs (Thornton/Reed).

Should be a well pitched season on the Southside this year.

Realistically, only openings are 1-2 Bench spots
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:28 AM
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It has to be the strength of the club,again this year. It definitely looks good on paper. If the offense produces at all, they should be in the hunt again,unless the Tigers run away with it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:31 AM
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1. Peavy ---3.37ERA
2. Sale ---3.05ERA
3. Floyd ---4.29ERA
4. Danks ---4.12(career)
5. Qunitana ---3.76ERA

CL-Reed ---4.75ERA
SU-Crain ---2.44ERA
SU-Thornton ---3.46ERA
MR-Lindstrom ---2.61ERA
MR-Veal ---1.38ERA
MR-Jones ---2.39ERA
LR/MR- Santiago ---3.33ERA

Barring some injuries or trades, or disastrous spring training outings (which really don't matter) We have our 2013 Pitchers set. Even if Peavy, Sale, and Quintana come back to reality a little we still have 5 starters with sub 4 era potential this year. Our Bullpen has some skewed ERAs (Thornton/Reed).

Should be a well pitched season on the Southside this year.

Realistically, only openings are 1-2 Bench spots
It's a decent staff, and an even better pen. The problem is injury concerns for 4 of our starters. Santiago helps a bit, but we've got nothing in the pipe after that. Depth of pitching could really come and bite us in the ass. All of our pitching "talent" close to ready in the minors are hard throwing short inning relievers.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:32 AM
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1. Peavy ---3.37ERA
2. Sale ---3.05ERA
3. Floyd ---4.29ERA
4. Danks ---4.12(career)
5. Qunitana ---3.76ERA

CL-Reed ---4.75ERA
SU-Crain ---2.44ERA
SU-Thornton ---3.46ERA
MR-Lindstrom ---2.61ERA
MR-Veal ---1.38ERA
MR-Jones ---2.39ERA
LR/MR- Santiago ---3.33ERA

Barring some injuries or trades, or disastrous spring training outings (which really don't matter) We have our 2013 Pitchers set. Even if Peavy, Sale, and Quintana come back to reality a little we still have 5 starters with sub 4 era potential this year. Our Bullpen has some skewed ERAs (Thornton/Reed).

Should be a well pitched season on the Southside this year.

Realistically, only openings are 1-2 Bench spots
Skewed as in bad?

Reed was not good last year.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:36 AM
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Skewed as in bad?

Reed was not good last year.
That's a little overly critical. He was bad as a closer, but his numbers are hurt by some particularly bad outings. He had some really good stretches, and he's certainly got the talent to succeed in any pen role.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:45 AM
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It's a decent staff, and an even better pen. The problem is injury concerns for 4 of our starters. Santiago helps a bit, but we've got nothing in the pipe after that. Depth of pitching could really come and bite us in the ass. All of our pitching "talent" close to ready in the minors are hard throwing short inning relievers.
Depth of pitching is an issue for almost every team, though. I can't think of too many organizations that can withstand losing any of their top 4 expected starters for too long.

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Reed was not good last year.
As a closer he was all right. 29 of 33 saves in one's rookie year is nothing to scoff at. And at very least, the bullpen is pretty deep even into the AAA level, so if Reed falls apart there are more then enough options to relieve him.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:10 AM
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Depth of pitching is an issue for almost every team, though. I can't think of too many organizations that can withstand losing any of their top 4 expected starters for too long.
Of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that we've go four guys who are likely to spend time on the DL and have spent lots of time on the DL the last few years (the exception being Sale, but honestly I feel he's the most likely to be injured).
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:02 PM
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29 of 33 is not a bad year. No one really judges closer by ERA anyway.

Plus I think this year Reed will start to bury his slider upping his K% Resulting in, most likely a lower BABip
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:03 PM
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Of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that we've go four guys who are likely to spend time on the DL and have spent lots of time on the DL the last few years (the exception being Sale, but honestly I feel he's the most likely to be injured).
Why? He has never been seriously injured.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:47 AM
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Of course, but the point I'm trying to make is that we've go four guys who are likely to spend time on the DL and have spent lots of time on the DL the last few years (the exception being Sale, but honestly I feel he's the most likely to be injured).
I think you are overreacting. Sale may have the chance to go down w an injury, but I think w Danks coming back from one and Peavy's history, Sale is not the most likely.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:49 PM
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Last year, Reed was fantastic in getting the first two guys out, then had trouble getting the last out. If he polishes his changeup and features that more often, he can be more effective. He also learned some things about setting hitters up and putting them away.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:01 PM
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Career-threatening injuries are less about bones and muscles and body size, and more about ligaments and tendons, the strength and resilience of which are impossible for even the most experienced of scouts (and statisticians) to assess with any degree of certainty.

Since Sale hasn't had to have surgery, and none of us has operated on him, none of us are qualified to render an opinion on the strength and resilience of his tendons and ligaments.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:03 PM
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Career-threatening injuries are less about bones and muscles and body size, and more about ligaments and tendons, the strength and resilience of which are impossible for even the most experienced of scouts (and statisticians) to assess with any degree of certainty.

Since Sale hasn't had to have surgery, and none of us has operated on him, none of us are qualified to render an opinion on the strength and resilience of his tendons and ligaments.
That was pretty much the point I was trying to make until I let myself get dragged into the munchiverse.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:13 PM
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That was pretty much the point I was trying to make until I let myself get dragged into the munchiverse.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:36 PM
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Okay I just can't let this go. Seriously Sully is about as off base as possible on Verlander, and I don't want people to leave this thread thinking, AT ALL, that his motion is considered violent. Verlander's motion is marveled at in the scouting community, because he is able to derive so much velocity with a minimal amount of shoulder-hip separation. The minimal amount of movement versus the velocity he creates is unparalleled at least in recent baseball history , probably all time (a large reason he is so special, because logic dictates this would minimize velocity in favor of control and less wear). There are thousands upon thousands of resources out there discussing this at length. For ANYONE to EVER claim that Justin Verlander's delivery is violent shows they have little knowledge or understanding of even the most basic of pitching mechanic dynamics.
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