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Old 04-14-2013, 10:24 PM
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Decent movie and it's alot better than the Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb movie but like both of those Hollywood went a little to far with being to dramatic. Then again I suppose you have to so they can sell the movie.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:16 AM
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Decent movie and it's alot better than the Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb movie but like both of those Hollywood went a little to far with being to dramatic. Then again I suppose you have to so they can sell the movie.
I haven't seen it, hoping to see it soon. But the criticism I've heard from more than one source is that the movie wasn't as dramatic as the reality. Even The Sporting news came out editorially against Jackie Robinson.

If it was overdramatized, it was done so for reasons different thatn other sports movies because the intent was to drive home the contribution that Jackie Robinson and a few others made to America. which really cam't be exaggerated. Robinson's 10-year career, at least the initial years of it, probably took at least 10 years off his life.

I woudl hope it's a darn good movie, because the story is importnat enough that it nees to be. When I was in college in the mid-1970s, I gave a speech about racial prejudice in major league baseball. The graduate assisting who graded it found it hard to believe that baseball was all white before 1947. There are baseball fans today who don't understand why No. 42 is on the wall of all the major league ballparks.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:54 AM
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I saw it Saturday. If you knew little or nothing about Jackie Robinson, you would love this movie. I took a date to see it, and she really liked it. My problem with it is I feel like they only scratched the surface of what he endured, and it only captured his time with the Montreal team and his rookie season in the bigs. He had to deal with that for two years without retaliation, and it probably shortened his career. That said, what pleasantly surprised me was the theater I was at was packed, and the attendees were mostly young white kids. And even if the movie didn't go far enough with the treatment he received, at least you did get a glimpse and feel for it. And i'm glad they touched on his being court martialed while in the army, something i don't think a lot of people know. Definitely worth the price of admission.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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I saw it Saturday. If you knew little or nothing about Jackie Robinson, you would love this movie. I took a date to see it, and she really liked it. My problem with it is I feel like they only scratched the surface of what he endured, and it only captured his time with the Montreal team and his rookie season in the bigs. He had to deal with that for two years without retaliation, and it probably shortened his career. That said, what pleasantly surprised me was the theater I was at was packed, and the attendees were mostly young white kids. And even if the movie didn't go far enough with the treatment he received, at least you did get a glimpse and feel for it. And i'm glad they touched on his being court martialed while in the army, something i don't think a lot of people know. Definitely worth the price of admission.
When I went to KC, the Negro League Museum was quite crowded and about 95% of the crowd were young white families. It is a must see for any baseball fan. It was by far the best part of the trip, other than awesome BBQ and winning lots of money at the casino...

I probably will see this eventually. I don't have the luxury of going to the movies as I please anymore. I did catch John Goodman's the Babe last night. I was reminded why Bill Jauss went ape **** on how terrible it was. He even hated the popcorn...
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:39 PM
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I think the movie is great for teaching younger fans about what Robinson went through but I find hard to believe any kid over 7 wouldn't know who Jackie Robinson is. I know Jackie Robinson went through alot and I respect him for his courage but the movie doesn't tell the whole story on him and thats what I was hoping for.
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I saw it Saturday. If you knew little or nothing about Jackie Robinson, you would love this movie. I took a date to see it, and she really liked it. My problem with it is I feel like they only scratched the surface of what he endured, and it only captured his time with the Montreal team and his rookie season in the bigs. He had to deal with that for two years without retaliation, and it probably shortened his career. That said, what pleasantly surprised me was the theater I was at was packed, and the attendees were mostly young white kids. And even if the movie didn't go far enough with the treatment he received, at least you did get a glimpse and feel for it. And i'm glad they touched on his being court martialed while in the army, something i don't think a lot of people know. Definitely worth the price of admission.
Knowing that the movie was only about two hours long, I did not expect an in-depth depiction of what Robinson went through during his career because the move could not start cold with his debut with the Dodgers. I think the movie did a good job of showing what the attitudes were leading up to his signing and how widespread those attitudes were (not just in the South, but throughout MLB regardless of geography).

When the movie "ended" I felt a little cheated, but then they went into the postscript stuff which gave a sense of what happened to Robinson and some of the significant other people in the movie after his rookie year.

Baseball fans might be disappointed by the amount of actual baseball scenes, but I think the movie's message was contained mostly in what happened off the field. They showed enough baseball stuff to show how the other players, reporters and one Manager in particular felt about Robinson's presence in what they felt was their exclusive domain.

The fact that Durocher was the only person officially punished by MLB in direct connection to Robinson (the reason cited was total pretext) speaks volumes of how strong the attitudes were back then. I know Chapman never managed after that year, but there was no official word from MLB banning him for his actions.

Poor Durocher was later further punished by being forced to manage the Cubs in, among other great years, 1969.......
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I'm surprised that JR hasn't been interviewed more about the movie. I read where he saw the movie and he thought that Harrison Ford did a good job playing the role of Branch Rickey. Other than that, nothing else was said about Jackie Robinson. I'm sure he could add alot on the subject because JR was at the first game Jackie Robinson played for the Dodgers in 1947 at Ebbets Field. JR grew up in Brooklyn and was a die hard Brooklyn Dodgers fan. I would imagine that JR is one of the few people still around who was at that first game that Robinson played in.
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I'm surprised that JR hasn't been interviewed more about the movie. I read where he saw the movie and he thought that Harrison Ford did a good job playing the role of Branch Rickey. Other than that, nothing else was said about Jackie Robinson. I'm sure he could add alot on the subject because JR was at the first game Jackie Robinson played for the Dodgers in 1947 at Ebbets Field. JR grew up in Brooklyn and was a die hard Brooklyn Dodgers fan. I would imagine that JR is one of the few people still around who was at that first game that Robinson played in.
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If it was overdramatized, it was done so for reasons different thatn other sports movies because the intent was to drive home the contribution that Jackie Robinson and a few others made to America. which really cam't be exaggerated. Robinson's 10-year career, at least the initial years of it, probably took at least 10 years off his life.
I agree with that. Robinson was actually an intelligent man, you might have even called him an intellect, a rarity in baseball then and now. It's an important reason among many others that Rickey chose him to be the first. Robinson had a highly competitive nature that he had to stifle partly in the early years. Oh he was allowed to beat you with his legs, arm and bat but he had to endure some really cruel abuse. Things got better as the 40's became the 50's, but the early years had to take their toll. I remember seeing Robinson on TV at game 2 of the 1972 World Series in Cincinnati and thinking how bad he looked. He was gone 9 days later at the young age of 53.
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Can anyone recommend a good book about Robinson's life and/or career? Or Larry Doby, for that matter?
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I saw it Saturday. If you knew little or nothing about Jackie Robinson, you would love this movie. I took a date to see it, and she really liked it. My problem with it is I feel like they only scratched the surface of what he endured, and it only captured his time with the Montreal team and his rookie season in the bigs. He had to deal with that for two years without retaliation, and it probably shortened his career. That said, what pleasantly surprised me was the theater I was at was packed, and the attendees were mostly young white kids. And even if the movie didn't go far enough with the treatment he received, at least you did get a glimpse and feel for it. And i'm glad they touched on his being court martialed while in the army, something i don't think a lot of people know. Definitely worth the price of admission.
I teach seventh grade and a bunch of my students said they saw this movie over the weekend. All of them loved it and, knowing how much of a baseball fan I am, said I have to see it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:41 PM
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Can anyone recommend a good book about Robinson's life and/or career? Or Larry Doby, for that matter?
I read two books about him. I can't recall the names of them but both were very good books. Apparently Robinson wasn't as well liked as some may think. If I recall correctly, Robinson got along more with his white teammates than he did with Campanella and Newcombe. I know the book touched on this so i'm not sure how much Robinson didn't get along with his black teammates. But I always thought it was kind of a shame that they hand picked Robinson for this honor instead of Josh Gibson or Satchel Paige. I feel baseball did a great thing in finally letting blacks into baseball but I always felt they snubbed alot of people by how they chose. I realize they chose Robinson because he had the strength and courage and smarts to take the namecalling but these other guys like Gibson and Paige had been busting their tails off for years and to not get chosen to be the first black mlb player because they weren't smart or level headed enough is disrespectful in it's own way.
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Decent movie and it's alot better than the Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb movie but like both of those Hollywood went a little to far with being to dramatic. Then again I suppose you have to so they can sell the movie.
I'm not sure what you mean, to fit the saga of Jackie Robinson's first season into a 2-hour movie, they had to bleach a ton of stuff out. I think they did a good job of condensing the story for everyone to be able to see and digest. But to tell the truth about what he faced it would probably take an epic that would make The Godfather look like a Saturday morning cartoon.

My only criticism is that the movie is extremely formulaic, but that's true for a lot of good sports movies. Protagonist hero is presented, faces external struggle and challenges, internalizes these forces and is unsure if he can go on, is guided by older, wiser friend, overcomes adversity and wins everyone's respect by end. You can take the script to the bank every. Single. Time. I got the feeling that they want you to think that by October 1947, everyone has accepted Jackie Robinson and the idea of African Americans playing "white" baseball, which isn't true at all.

That said, if you like baseball, you will like this movie, if for nothing else than the sweet, sweet retro uniforms.

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That said, if you like baseball, you will like this movie, if for nothing else than the sweet, sweet retro uniforms.

Made me want to buy a retro Brooklyn Dodgers jersey!
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