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Old 01-07-2012, 10:29 PM
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Default NESN: White Sox worst minor league system

http://www.nesn.com/2012/01/orioles-...m-systems.html

Please don't shoot the messenger - just passing it out for debate.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:36 PM
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:07 PM
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There is no debate. It's awful and has been for a while.

You probably should have posted this in the minor league section.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:21 PM
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Didn't we get 3 of the Marlins' top 10 prospects for Ozzie - and we're still the worst?
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:31 PM
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Didn't we get 3 of the Marlins' top 10 prospects for Ozzie - and we're still the worst?
The Marlins system wasn't so hot either.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:37 PM
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There is no debate. It's awful and has been for a while.

You probably should have posted this in the minor league section.

Tough call - as the Sox are possibly in rebuilding mode, but with what?

The damage Dave Wilder did to the White Sox is almost impossible to calculate - and the baseball people I have talked to do not understand how KW has escaped the scandal.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:52 PM
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We have to prepare to be in for a long wait for success because that's exactly what we're in for.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:16 AM
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Tough call - as the Sox are possibly in rebuilding mode, but with what?

The damage Dave Wilder did to the White Sox is almost impossible to calculate - and the baseball people I have talked to do not understand how KW has escaped the scandal.
It's not just the lack of presence and spending on international talent. Jerry doesn't let Kenny spend on the draft. The Sox routinely stick to slot recommendations and thus end up completely avoiding a huge portion of talent in the draft. Go look at total draft, and bonus expenditure spending. The Sox have been in the bottom routinely for some years now. Couple all this with a dearth of effective scouts, an inability to churn out major leaguers from what talent they do end up drafting, and Kenny's propensity to trade prospects to "win now!" and you have the current situation the Sox are in. The CBA changes to the draft with effectively instituting hard slotting without calling it hard slotting should rectify some of these issues.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:40 AM
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We have to prepare to be in for a long wait for success because that's exactly what we're in for.
I disagree. It's still a very winnable division every year.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:09 PM
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A decade or so ago they said the Sox had the best minor league system. I think subsequent events proved that not to be the case. Now it's supposed to be the worst. My view is probably not, although there is no doubt it is lousy and somewhere in the bottom 10. This type of list is problematic. It takes years before you know how good or bad your prospects really were.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:26 PM
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List continues with teams 20-11

http://www.nesn.com/2012/01/red-sox-...ml?rs-img120=0
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:50 PM
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I disagree. It's still a very winnable division every year.
The division is winnable every year, but is the pennant a realistic option for the foreseeable future? The AL West is full of teams with cash, and the East will always be a threat.

I think we do have a lot of work for becoming a pennant contender.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:42 PM
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The division is winnable every year, but is the pennant a realistic option for the foreseeable future? The AL West is full of teams with cash, and the East will always be a threat.

I think we do have a lot of work for becoming a pennant contender.
Just make the playoffs. Everything else is a crapshoot.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:43 PM
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Just make the playoffs. Everything else is a crap shoot.
It's a crap shoot once you get in, but there's a reason why certain teams annually make it and others appear once in a while. I'd prefer to make it every year and bring noise.
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:33 PM
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It's a crap shoot once you get in, but there's a reason why certain teams annually make it and others appear once in a while. I'd prefer to make it every year and bring noise.
The teams that are in every year as you say are because they spend and spend big on the ML roster.


The Twins being the exception but what has that gotten for them?

The Rays too small a sample size.
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