Cubs get Haren for Marmol...or maybe not.

[DumpJerry]

Originally Posted by 34rancher

And now trade is off. Wonder who backed out.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,2929651.story

Haren mentioned that death was an option.

[DrCrawdad]

Originally Posted by samurai_sox

Since when did the Cubs change their name to the Chicago Theos? All I'm seeing out of cubs fans is "Great job Theo!" "Go Theo!"

Clearly you've been reading WSI since Theo was inaugurated with the Cubbies job.

WSI used to have the FOBB (Friends Of Billy Beane) we now need FOTE (Friends Of Theo Epstein).

[JB98]

Haren is in severe decline. Marmol is too unreliable to close for a contending team like the Angels.

Cub fans probably still think Haren is good. I don't think this deal would make sense for either side.

[Brian26]

Originally Posted by 34rancher

And now trade is off. Wonder who backed out.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,2929651.story

Watch out, I have to bust out my favorite Hawk tag:


"Welp....that didn't take long."

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by JB98

Haren is in severe decline. Marmol is too unreliable to close for a contending team like the Angels.

Cub fans probably still think Haren is good. I don't think this deal would make sense for either side.

Maybe the Angels figured they'd be better off just declining Haren's option instead of getting back Marmol.

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by JB98

Haren is in severe decline. Marmol is too unreliable to close for a contending team like the Angels.

Cub fans probably still think Haren is good. I don't think this deal would make sense for either side.

It really doesn't. What do the rebuilding Cubs want with a declining veteran and what does LA want with a ****ty reliever?

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by doublem23

It really doesn't. What do the rebuilding Cubs want with a declining veteran and what does LA want with a ****ty reliever?

The Cubs can sign that declining veteran on their own now!

[The Immigrant]

This thread needs more Nelson Muntz.

[CoopaLoop]

So is this deal dead? I couldn't believe someone would give up Haren for Carlos Marmol.

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by CoopaLoop

So is this deal dead? I couldn't believe someone would give up Haren for Carlos Marmol.

Yes, the Angels just declined the 2013 option on Haren's contract, instead of trading him for Marmol.

[#1swisher]

Ken Rosenthal
Source: Marmol would have OK'ed trade to #Angels, but #Cubs pulled deal off table and trade is not happening. Angels talking to other clubs.

[SCCWS]

Originally Posted by #1swisher

Ken Rosenthal
Source: Marmol would have OK'ed trade to #Angels, but #Cubs pulled deal off table and trade is not happening. Angels talking to other clubs.

Supposedly Red Sox are very interested in Haren.

[blandman]

There is an assumption among executives that Haren failed a physical.

[doublem23]

Originally Posted by blandman

There is an assumption among executives that Haren failed a physical.

Wouldn't be surprising... Here's Haren's fastball the last 6 years:



woof

[Tragg]

Marmol could easily be a "coop will fix em" type with his arm. He doesn't have to close. Decent chance with little risk - slow pitching past his prime starter.