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Old 11-24-2012, 04:53 PM
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If they trade De Asa and make this ass clown the centerfielder then then I have to re-evaluate my loyalty to this team.
Had anyone said anything about trading De Asa [sic]? I feel this is a bogus rumor you've just made up to justify getting angry over something any sensible person would just kind of shrug off.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:57 PM
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Had anyone said anything about trading De Asa [sic]? I feel this is a bogus rumor you've just made up to justify getting angry over something any sensible person would just kind of shrug off.
I don't know if the rumor was "bogus", but I do remember reading somewhere that the White Sox were thinking of trading De Aza. Or maybe Hahn was just putting out feelers for how valuable he is. Dunno.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:31 PM
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I can't even tell if you are insulting me or not, but I am happy with Wise as our 4th outfielder. He plays solid defense and offensively he knows which end of the bat to hold.
I was agreeing with you. I like the signing, and think all these people whining about a guy signed for under a million to be a backup is downright obnoxious.
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:56 PM
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See you guys in 2014. I can't deal with another year of this nonsense.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:06 PM
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The Sox coughed up the division to the Tigers and lost BUT they went out and signed Torii Hunter, another sox killer, who's back in our division but the White Sox signed journeyman, DeWayne Wise and mark my words, the Sox love this guy and he will see a lot of playing time let's see where that batting average is next year and see his other stats...
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Okay, we couldn't sign Hunter. Then find edges where you can get them - on the bench, in the pen. Build some real depth on this team, so we don't cave like last year. You can do that for a reasonable sum. The Sox didn't even try. And at this point I think the Sox actually think he's good.
He saw a lot of playing time last year; he led off many games. In fact, he played CF in late innings because De Aza doesn't like playing CF (even though De Aza is a much better CF). When he started - he led off. And to be fair, your fourth OF SHOULD play. And that's why he shouldn't be our fourth OF.
We'll see how the other positions shake out.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:23 PM
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When Dunn's deal is done, I hope Hahn will stock the roster with more than three starting-caliber OFs, to allow the DH spot to be used to give starters a break.

When you have two high-dollar starting sluggers who can only play 1B and DH, and your owner effectively caps payroll, it limits roster and payroll flexibility.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:51 AM
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See you guys in 2014. I can't deal with another year of this nonsense.
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I was agreeing with you. I like the signing, and think all these people whining about a guy signed for under a million to be a backup is downright obnoxious.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:14 PM
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Okay, we couldn't sign Hunter. Then find edges where you can get them - on the bench, in the pen. Build some real depth on this team, so we don't cave like last year. You can do that for a reasonable sum. The Sox didn't even try. And at this point I think the Sox actually think he's good.
He saw a lot of playing time last year; he led off many games. In fact, he played CF in late innings because De Aza doesn't like playing CF (even though De Aza is a much better CF). When he started - he led off. And to be fair, your fourth OF SHOULD play. And that's why he shouldn't be our fourth OF.
We'll see how the other positions shake out.
Out of all the players in organized baseball, all the players in minor leagues,
MLB, Japan, etc.... The very best possibility for improving the White Sox, to put us into the playoffs and beyond turns out to be Dewayne Wise. Really?
This move smacks of defeatism. Or maybe they picked up Wise with intent to package him with others in blockbuster deal or something?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:25 PM
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Out of all the players in organized baseball, all the players in minor leagues,
MLB, Japan, etc.... The very best possibility for improving the White Sox, to put us into the playoffs and beyond turns out to be Dewayne Wise. Really?
This move smacks of defeatism. Or maybe they picked up Wise with intent to package him with others in blockbuster deal or something?
You think that's the role of a fourth outfielder? All of that? Really?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:44 PM
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You think that's the role of a fourth outfielder? All of that? Really?
The hatred of DeWayne Wise apparently runs deep here. I can't believe all of this animosity towards a bench player.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:59 PM
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I'm cool with it. Sure DeWayne's not a very good player; most backup players aren't thus their relegation to the bench in the first place. Still, he's an adequate defender with enough pop in his bat to help produce runs for a few games at a time.

His problems seem to stem primarily from overuse when the powers that be fall in love with his good performances and overuse him out of the, likely, mistaken belief that he can get hot and stay hot for more than a couple games here and there. I'm more than comfortable with him getting a handful of starts and doing some pinch hitting.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:15 PM
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The hatred of DeWayne Wise apparently runs deep here. I can't believe all of this animosity towards a bench player.
It's also apparent that a lot of folks don't realize how shallow the benches of other teams are. Yes, the Sox had one of the worst in MLB last year, but there weren't too many teams with solid bench production.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:27 PM
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It's also apparent that a lot of folks don't realize how shallow the benches of other teams are. Yes, the Sox had one of the worst in MLB last year, but there weren't too many teams with solid bench production.
Or solid bullpens and starting rotations. There are too many teams for the current talent pool to fill. Just my opinion.
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Or solid bullpens and starting rotations. There are too many teams for the current talent pool to fill. Just my opinion.
Yup, and it's been that way for years.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:00 PM
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If the Sox use Wise as a real backup, 25th man on the roster type, it will be the first time.
Because, so far, he plays, and when he starts, the Sox give him the most at bats in the lineup.
Not everyone has a bad bench...the Sox do. Not a good start to improving it. Hopefully, the sign 3 guys for the bench who are better than him. Because if we don't, we won't improve.
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