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The Sox still have better pitching from top to bottom than both Kansas City and Cleveland. Better lineup, too, IMO.
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I agree and I don't think it's close.
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I don't. Starting pitching definitely an edge to the sox, bullpen definitely an edge to the royals.
Holland, Herrera, Collins and crow are studs. I like Nate jones and crain, Thornton is a year older, Addison reed didn't prove much to me last year. I love veal's line but he doesn't have the history that he royals do. |
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Agreed. I like the move only if it's just the opening salvo to a couple other trades/signings. Hopefully that's the case. If not...what does this trade really do for them when Shields leaves in a couple years?
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1b: Hosmer v. Konerko = Konerko 2b: Beckham v. Giovetllla= Beckham maybe ss: escobar v. ramirex = escobar 3b = moustakas v. keppinger = moustakas lf = vicideo v. gordon = gordon cf = de aza v. cain = cain rf = rios v. frenchy = rios dh = butler v. dunn = butler c = perez v. flowers = MEGA perez That's six of nine I'd rather have royals. And giving the benefit to Beckham. And Hosmer certainly has a brighter future than Konerko. Shields v. Sale = Sale Guthrie v. Peavy = Peavy Floyd v. Santana = Floyd Davis v. Quintana = push Danks v. Chen = Danks (maybe) Hocevar vs. Santiago = Santiago Herrera vs. Veal = Herrera Crain vs. Crow = Crow Thornton vs.Collins = Collins Reed vs. Holland = Holland Then they have Paulino, Duffy, Lamb, Mendozea Hochevar .. worth a laugh |
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It's not hyperbole at all unless you think a 72-win team can miraculously turn things around by simply adding James Shields and a couple #5 starters. For them to contend, they need everything to go their way. They don't have anywhere near the talent of a team like Detroit. It's not exaggeration, just the facts.
You say they couldn't afford a guy like Sanchez, but they absolutely could have if they hadn't thrown money away on Guthrie and Santana. And you of course glossed over the other thing I said, that they could have kept Myers and traded lesser prospects for a guy like Gavin Floyd -- you're telling me that wouldn't have been a MUCH better decision had they done that? There are so many other viable things KC could've done other than trading the MiLB POTY to get better this year. That's all I'm trying to say. |
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Fair enough.
I'd rather have Shields than Sanchez. I'd rather have Shields than Floyd. And they didn't need one SP, they needed four. |
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Basically, I think a bunch of bad contracts given out in past years and in this offseason forced Dayton Moore's hand into making a move that, while it might pay off to have a team approaching .500 in 2013, is a spectacularly bad decision for the long term for Kansas City. By 2015, they might have Davis in the rotation or pen still; but Shields could get a bigger contract elsewhere; while Myers is just getting arbitration for the first time Tampa after a couple solid years in RF; Francoeur could be out of the sport altogether; while Odorizzi and Montgomery might be having some success for the Rays (and as Doub and others have pointed out, perhaps less Montgomery there and more Odorizzi). |
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The Royals have all these awesome hitters, yet they were still 12th in the league in runs scored, while the Sox were fourth. Unlike a lot of people here, I do like the Shields trade for KC. But I don't think the Royals have as good a lineup as the Sox. No way. I'd be willing to bet you the Sox score more runs than KC again this year. Obviously, the Royals are younger and therefore have more future upside. But this isn't about the future. It's about right now. And, BTW, Giavotella had one home run and 15 RBIs in 53 games last year. For all of Beckham's faults, he's clearly the more accomplished player. Ramirez was more productive than Escobar was last year, even in a down season, and Keppinger hit about 80 points higher than Moustakas and had a higher OPS as well. P.S., De Aza is a better player than Cain too. There has to be some reason the Sox scored so many more runs than the Royals, and it's not because KC is better than them at six of nine positions. |
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Well on that we can agree, and looking at their roster they have maybe two starters that should be starting playoff games. That's only okay if you've got a murderer's row on offense. They've unfortunately got something closer to the opposite.
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