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Old 12-20-2012, 09:39 AM
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Default Cubs close to Deal with Edwin Jackson

4 years - 52 mil, its on ESPN.Com

I liked Jackson, but thats a lot of money for him.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:44 AM
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4 years - 52 mil, its on ESPN.Com

I liked Jackson, but thats a lot of money for him.
Sure is.

But... we now have a price tag on what Floyd will cost next year (if we still have him). Although, with an extra year on his arm the total could come down a tad:

Jackson -
70-71 Career, 29 Years Old
162 Avgs: 11-11 4.40 ERA 197 IP 22 HR 150 K 77 BB 1.43 WHIP
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70-66 Career, 29 Years Old
162 Avgs: 13-12 4.46 ERA 204 IP 26 HR 159 K 68 BB 1.33 WHIP
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:52 AM
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:05 AM
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How much longer until another team comes in and steals him away?
That would be hilarious.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:12 AM
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I would say they're signing him now to trade for prospects in July, but is 4 years necessary?

Maybe that kind of control is attractive to a potential trader.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:25 AM
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Edwin Jackson might get a contract longer than 1 year? THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT!
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:31 AM
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Maybe that kind of control is attractive to a potential trader.
Not for anyone whose been paying attention to Edwin Jackson's career.

Maybe they'll get a haul for him in July 2016.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:40 AM
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I don't know what they're doing
It's very odd. Why lock up an innings eater type pitcher to big dollars this year when the team is going to lose 90-100 games again? Unless maybe they are going to go spend crazy next offseason and want to have him locked up now? Don't really understand this one. Congrats to Edwin though for finally getting his long term contract.

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But... we now have a price tag on what Floyd will cost next year (if we still have him). Although, with an extra year on his arm the total could come down a tad:

Jackson -
70-71 Career, 29 Years Old
162 Avgs: 11-11 4.40 ERA 197 IP 22 HR 150 K 77 BB 1.43 WHIP
Floyd -
70-66 Career, 29 Years Old
162 Avgs: 13-12 4.46 ERA 204 IP 26 HR 159 K 68 BB 1.33 WHIP
Wow...they aren't just similar, they are almost the exact same pitcher. I'm sure Floyd's agent is going to use that as a base whenever Gavin hits free agency.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:43 AM
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Edwin Jackson's quest to play for every team continues.

I have no clue what the mighty Theo is doing here. If Edwin Jackson is part of your long-term plans, it is time to change your long-term plans.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:49 PM
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Wow...they aren't just similar, they are almost the exact same pitcher. I'm sure Floyd's agent is going to use that as a base whenever Gavin hits free agency.
If you want to throw one more pitcher (with very, very similar stats to both of those guys) into that mix, let's look at fellow FA Joe Saunders:

Saunders -
78-65 Career, 31 Years Old
162 Avgs: 14-12 4.15 ERA 209 IP 26 HR 119 K 64 BB 1.36 WHIP

It'll be very interesting to see what he gets this off season to see just how much the Cubs would be overpaying (if this 4/$52M is accurate/true) and as a closer guide to what Floyd might/could get.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:56 PM
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Jackson always intrigued me because he got moved so much. He's one of those guys that was attractive to other teams but not so good that you'd consider him an untouchable. If you had other good starters then he was a valuable chip to move.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:03 PM
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The only thing you can be sure of with Jackson is that on any given night, you have no idea what you're going to get.

Yeah, 4 years $52M sounds about right.

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Old 12-20-2012, 01:16 PM
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Jackson always intrigued me because he got moved so much. He's one of those guys that was attractive to other teams but not so good that you'd consider him an untouchable. If you had other good starters then he was a valuable chip to move.
Having spent about 1 season with Edwin over the course of 2 years, I can tell you he is one of those pitchers that absolutely dazzles you when he's on but frustrates the living hell out of you when he's not. It's very evident to me why pitching coaches salivate at the opportunity to work with him but throw their hands up in the air after a few months and look to the next project.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:49 PM
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Wow...they aren't just similar, they are almost the exact same pitcher. I'm sure Floyd's agent is going to use that as a base whenever Gavin hits free agency.
One difference is Jackson has put up better numbers since 2009.

Floyd: 4.20 ERA, average 185.5 IP/year

Jackson:3.98 ERA, 203 IP/year
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:34 PM
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Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #Cubs, free-agent RHP Edwin Jackson agree on four-year, $52M deal, pending physical. First reported by @CSNMooney
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