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He's a victim off too much mediocre baseball after age 35. If people would just look at his 162 game average from the beginning of his career through age 35, he's a no-brainer. Throw in his peak of 1981-1987, where he lost time because of the strike and collusion in 1987, too. He should have won an MVP in 1987. It's crystal clear he's a Hall of Fame player.
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I think Frank is going to get screwed by "purists" who don't want to vote for a "one-dimensional DH."
As I've always said, the Hall is full of one-dimensional players. They are called pitchers. If you're historically great at your "one dimension," you belong in the Hall. It's pretty simple to me.
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Should there be a mechanism for retroactively removing someone from The Hall? You bet. Just like Armstrong got his Tour titles stripped.
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Personally, what offends me the most about this year's voting is that someone gave Aaron Sele a vote. WHAT THE ****
If the dip****s that comprise the BBWAA want to have a haughty circle jerk of self righteousness, what the hell do I care? I've been well aware the BBWAA is chock full of morons for a while. But who the **** looked a guy with a career 148-121 record, 4.61 ERA, and 1.491 WHIP and was like, GIVE THIS MAN A PLAQUE?
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Gaylod Perry wrote a book admitting how he cheated yet I don't think any umpire ever caught him, it's hard to not respect that a little bit. I would have to think every pitcher scuffed or used a spitball sometime in their careers especially as they got older. Whitey Ford admitted to scuffing balls too so taking cheaters out of baseball is like taking sugar out of candy. It's part of the game. The way players have cheated today with steroids isn't a sexy way to cheat especially to older generations who feel Aarons and Maris's records are sacred but I would have to think every generation would have done the same thing if steroids were available. I think the only way to determine who belongs is if we look at the player themselves. --Barry Bonds..No doubt hofer, steroids did inflate his numbers but he would have ended up with 600 homeruns regardless. --Roger Clemens....Same as Bonds, he would have ended up with hof numbers without roids. --Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro both weren't going to be hofers without roids so they need to be kept out. --Piazza, Biggio, Bagwell should and will get in but I just feel they all used at some point but should the voters punish them for making a bad decision. I personally don't think they should penalize them. --Mark McGwire is one who I really don't know how to judge. I think he would have gotten close to 500 homeruns but injuries may have kept him out longer without the roids too. Nobody is ever going to know who really used or didn't use roids so these voters need to use common sense on who should go in. |
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Now what is hypocritical is the same writers that were cheering the long ball and players like mcGwire and Sosa are now the same ones saying they don't belong in the HOF. And I have no respect for someone that takes glee in never getting caught cheating. I just can't. Not getting on a moral high horse, but that's basically saying you have no integrity, and couldn't make it unless you had an unfair advantage.
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Barry Bonds might have had the sort of relationship with the Hall of Fame that Jack Morris has if he hadn't juiced. You really don't know. What you do know is that by juicing he lost the respect of most baseball fans and helped change the game in a negative way. There are many who believe he doesn't belong in the record books, and the bar for the Hall of Fame is higher. |
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Gaylord Perry told the whole world he cheated and I have to give him credit for getting away with it. Again every pitcher scuffs balls especially in his era when they didn't throw every other ball away. |
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Off the top of my head, this year I would have voted in Raines, Piazza, Biggio and Bagwell.
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