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Old 02-08-2013, 10:21 PM
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Default Viciedo, Flowers and Beckham will be better hitters in 2013

So says Jeff Manto.

The leg kick sounds like Viciedo will resemble Big Hurt.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:25 PM
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I like the optimism, but if Manto is really serious about fixing Viciedo he needs to spend more than a year down in the minors starting from scratch. His entire approach is one huge flaw. 4 to 1 k to bb ratio
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:00 PM
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I like the optimism, but if Manto is really serious about fixing Viciedo he needs to spend more than a year down in the minors starting from scratch. His entire approach is one huge flaw. 4 to 1 k to bb ratio
They could do that, or they could, you know, let the professional hitting coach attempt to do his job.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:28 PM
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They could do that, or they could, you know, let the professional hitting coach attempt to do his job.
So are you ready to write of the season entirely? Or are we going to rework work swings entirely at the big league level like rebuilding teams do?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:30 PM
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So are you ready to write of the season entirely? Or are we going to rework work swings entirely at the big league level like rebuilding teams do?
I don't think that it's an entire rebuild of his swing that's needed. Just his approach.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:31 PM
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So are you ready to write of the season entirely? Or are we going to rework work swings entirely at the big league level like rebuilding teams do?
Oh, god adding a simple timing mechanism is not a complete swing rebuild.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:40 PM
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I don't think that it's an entire rebuild of his swing that's needed. Just his approach.
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Oh, god adding a simple timing mechanism is not a complete swing rebuild.
So...failure then? I mean, he swings like Vlad Guerrero, only without the contact ability even in the zone, let alone outside it. Is kicking his leg gonna make him Vlad, or are we serious about making him a ballplayer?
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So...failure then? I mean, he swings like Vlad Guerrero, only without the contact ability even in the zone, let alone outside it. Is kicking his leg gonna make him Vlad, or are we serious about making him a ballplayer?
I'll let his actual work speak for itself. Thus, I make no certain statements or unfounded predictions as to Viciedo's 2013 season until he actually plays it.
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Assuming the Sox don't make any more moves, the three hitters listed at the start of this thread damn well better be better hitters this season.

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So...failure then? I mean, he swings like Vlad Guerrero, only without the contact ability even in the zone, let alone outside it. Is kicking his leg gonna make him Vlad, or are we serious about making him a ballplayer?
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I'll let his actual work speak for itself. Thus, I make no certain statements or unfounded predictions as to Viciedo's 2013 season until he actually plays it.
Why discuss things on a message board then?
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:23 AM
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Assuming the Sox don't make any more moves, the three hitters listed at the start of this thread damn well better be better hitters this season.

Lip

Lip, We all know that and so do the Sox, thats why this stuff is coming out. They have to realize these 3 have to come through but the others cant slack off either. Everything has to click, not much room for error.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:33 AM
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At least I'm consistent?

I look at Viciedo's approach and I honestly don't see any way other than star ability that it's going to work at the major league level. So unless he suddenly starts possessing elite contact skills, he isn't going to improve much by just kicking his damn leg. It isn't timing. Dude's biggest problem is he doesn't know where the ball is.
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At least I'm consistent?

I look at Viciedo's approach and I honestly don't see any way other than star ability that it's going to work at the major league level. So unless he suddenly starts possessing elite contact skills, he isn't going to improve much by just kicking his damn leg. It isn't timing. Dude's biggest problem is he doesn't know where the ball is.
Making contact is not his problem, at all. He is a .263 major league hitter, and hit .283 through the minors. He struck out a little too much last year, but he was nowhere near the league leaders. He makes a ton of contact, he just doesn't walk enough. His problem is patience, and a timing mechanism could help him with that.
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