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Old 03-25-2013, 07:33 PM
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Lordy, the Tribune is beating this angle to death. Who says they still don't have a vested interest in the Cubbies? Chances of the Cubbies going to Rosemont are slim and none and Slim just left by the side door.

They should stick to what they do best, trying to take away public employees' pensions.
I always heard it as "...and Slim just left town."
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:49 PM
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If this is a stupid question, I apologize in advance but why is the landmark status so difficult to get around or to at least tweak? It's not like Louis Sullivan built the dump.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:19 AM
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If this is a stupid question, I apologize in advance but why is the landmark status so difficult to get around or to at least tweak? It's not like Louis Sullivan built the dump.
You cannot do any alterations to the structure without permission. This includes signage. You also have some pretty strict maintenance requirements which cannot be put off. Demolition is almost completely out of the question.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:16 AM
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You cannot do any alterations to the structure without permission. This includes signage. You also have some pretty strict maintenance requirements which cannot be put off. Demolition is almost completely out of the question.
But will they have to give back the generous Class L property tax break that comes with landmark status?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:21 PM
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The Cubs threatening to move to Rosemont would be as successful as when the Bears threatened to move to Gary, IN. The Bears were in no way ever going to leave their LSD real esate and there is no way the Cubs will ever leave Wrigley Field. It is their only asset that allows them to be a sports-entertainment attraction.

As to the SOX, I certainly hope when the time is right to start considering a new ballpark, they seriously consider moving into the south or west Loop area. Chicago would beneft from a downtown ballpark nestled into the city skyline. The problem with the Cell is that it's not a downtown ballpark and it's not a suburban ballpark and has an identity conflict as a result.

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Old 03-27-2013, 02:33 PM
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The Cubs threatening to move to Rosemont would be as successful as when the Bears threatened to move to Gary, IN. The Bears were in now way ever going to leave their LSD real esate and there is no way the Cubs will ever leave Wrigley Field. It is their only asset that allows them to be a sports-entertainment attraction.

As to the SOX, I certainly hope when the time is right to start considering a new ballpark, they seriously consider moving into the south or west Loop area. Chicago would beneft from a downtown ballpark nestled into the city skyline. The problem with the Cell is that it's not a downtown ballpark and it's not a suburban ballpark and has an identity conflict as a result.
Lets see how the city looks 50 years from now when a new stadium will be needed.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:18 PM
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Lets see how the city looks 50 years from now when a new stadium will be needed.
In 2026 when the sweetheart deal expires for the current Sox park, the park wont be looking too attractive anymore.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:53 PM
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In 2026 when the sweetheart deal expires for the current Sox park, the park wont be looking too attractive anymore.
That depends on what deal they can negotiate at that time.

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The Cubs threatening to move to Rosemont would be as successful as when the Bears threatened to move to Gary, IN. The Bears were in now way ever going to leave their LSD real esate and there is no way the Cubs will ever leave Wrigley Field. It is their only asset that allows them to be a sports-entertainment attraction.

As to the SOX, I certainly hope when the time is right to start considering a new ballpark, they seriously consider moving into the south or west Loop area. Chicago would beneft from a downtown ballpark nestled into the city skyline. The problem with the Cell is that it's not a downtown ballpark and it's not a suburban ballpark and has an identity conflict as a result.
There isn't the real estate available for a park that there was ~25 years ago.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:03 PM
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That depends on what deal they can negotiate at that time.



I doubt the state will be granting any sweetheart deals in a very long time.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:06 PM
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I doubt the state will be granting any sweetheart deals in a very long time.
I agree, but that's 13 years from now. Who knows what the economy will look like, what the finances of the White Sox will be, let alone even who will be owning the team. The park may very well look just as, if not more, attractive than the team building a new stadium on their own.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:09 PM
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I doubt the state will be granting any sweetheart deals in a very long time.
The state probably won't be building any new stadiums either. A lot can change in 10+ years though.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:18 PM
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Rosenbloom hits the nail on the head.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...4459569.column
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Rosenbloom hits the nail on the head.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...4459569.column
It won't let me read it unless I become a "digital plus" subscriber.
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It won't let me read it unless I become a "digital plus" subscriber.
I feel your pain, Nellie. I only have online access to the Arizona Republic because I'm a subscriber. But I refuse to get sucked into any of these other "free, but for how long" online sheets.

I figure if anything important happens, I'll find out about it sooner or later!
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:50 PM
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Rosenbloom hits the nail on the head.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...4459569.column
I agree. I know Rosenbloom isn't real popular here but yes I too believe that he hit the bullseye. Love the sarcasm directed at Alderman Tunney. Wrigley Field is a dump. Maybe a salvageable dump but it looks like the Ricketts don't have the political clout to make the necessary changes. That's another area Rosenbloom hit on. The tone deaf incompetence and inability of the Ricketts. Wrigley Field is a giant albatross, even more so because it is perceived by Cub fans and really baseball fans in general, that it is absolutely necessary to hold onto it forever. Bull****. How many times as a resident old fart here and in life am I told the only constant is change? I guess it will be left to Jed and Theo to bail out the politically weak and baseball business inept Ricketts ownership group.
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