Offensive Problems

[TaylorStSox]

Originally Posted by WhiteSox5187

Flowers certainly doesn't appear to be an OBP machine in the majors so far.

I'll wait until he has consistent AB's to judge.

[RKMeibalane]

Originally Posted by blandman

I hope that most people are realizing not that Viciedo and Flowers won't hit for average or draw walks, but instead that players that don't hit for average or draw walks have no place in a major league lineup because they are black holes.

That still doesn't answer the question of who replaces them if they're sent back to Charlotte or traded. That's the problem.

[blandman]

Originally Posted by RKMeibalane

That still doesn't answer the question of who replaces them if they're sent back to Charlotte or traded. That's the problem.

That's a problem that could have been addressed in the off-season and wasn't. And the team said it would be fine and these guys were gonna be stars. And everyone bought it. That's the problem. No one is looking passed what the team says. And at the end of the year, when everyone looks back, the team will say they didn't expect this. And people will believe it. Because they bought in before. So the cycle of misinformation continues.

Meanwhile, there isn't another organization that would touch either of these guys. Not now, not before the season.

[LITTLE NELL]

Our offense stinks but could be worse, check out the Rays stats at ESPN baseball.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/...pe/2/league/al

[Golden Sox]

If Dunn continues to stink up the team the rest of the year, I just can't help but wonder. Will the White Sox eat the last year of his contract in 2014? Rather than just be subjected to another year of him, wouldn't it just be better to release him and try to go on to bigger and better things without him? I couldn't imagine any team trading for him and picking up his contract. If this continues the rest of the year, I could definitely see 2013 being the last year for Dunn in the major leagues. I remember when Dunn was with Washington and was going to be a free agent, the GM of Toronto was asked if the Blue Jays were interested in signing Dunn. He said he had absolutely no interest in him at all because amongst other things Dunn has not done one thing to improve himself as a player in all of the years he's been playing. The GM was forced to apologize after that hit the papers. But Toronto didn't try to sign Dunn, instead the White Sox did, unfortunately.

[Jerko]

I think the last 2 times Dunn scored, he got on via a walk and a HBP. Otherwise, pretty useless obviously.

[RKMeibalane]

Originally Posted by blandman

That's a problem that could have been addressed in the off-season and wasn't. And the team said it would be fine and these guys were gonna be stars. And everyone bought it. That's the problem. No one is looking passed what the team says. And at the end of the year, when everyone looks back, the team will say they didn't expect this. And people will believe it. Because they bought in before. So the cycle of misinformation continues.

I don't know of anyone who believes Viciedo or Flowers will be a star.

[blandman]

Originally Posted by RKMeibalane

I don't know of anyone who believes Viciedo or Flowers will be a star.

There's a ton here, and the organization has said so publicly.

[RKMeibalane]

Originally Posted by blandman

There's a ton here, and the organization has said so publicly.

Well, I don't pay much attention to the Sox organization's press releases or interviews, as most of what they share with the public is meaningless fluff. Reinsdorf won't allow anyone to be candid: we learned that lesson after Hawk's umpire rant last season.

As for what I think, I don't believe that either Viciedo or Flowers is anything special, but I do think they deserve more time to figure things out at the Major League level. As bad as they've been, there are no capable replacements available, and as the Sox have invested more than thirteen million dollars in the Blank, it's better to try and get something out of that investment, rather than jettisoning Viciedo and eating the cost of his salary.