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Old 05-28-2013, 02:44 PM
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Teams simply do not trade their good young prospects for a bandaid in July anymore. They have learned the hard way that the bandaid approach saps their farm system,which is the key to current sustained success.

Forget trading Peavy or Rios in July....they will not bring much of value.

Smarmy has top notch stuff,and with our offense,that means our pitcher has to be perfect.
Quintana has to learn to perform out of the stretch...I like the kid,but the dropoff is huge when runners get on base and he cannot use his ''hitch'' full delivery that decieves hitters and puts him in a good rythmn.

Sox have won 9 of 13 now....not the end of the world..just go out and win the next three.
Why would Peavy not bring much of value? He's an ace-level pitcher on a team-friendly contract through 2014 or 2015 (depending on if he fulfills the option requirements).
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:28 PM
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Why? Because in the new MLB paradigm, teams are more relunctant to trade away top prospects for short term help.

They see the best teams nurture their own prospects,and bring in new ones each year helping to sustain success.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:19 PM
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Why? Because in the new MLB paradigm, teams are more relunctant to trade away top prospects for short term help.
Right, but that's basically what the Royals did this offseason when they traded away the best prospect in baseball. It still happens.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:27 PM
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Right, but that's basically what the Royals did this offseason when they traded away the best prospect in baseball. It still happens.
And Bauer got moved to Cleveland. Indeed, it happens.
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Right, but that's basically what the Royals did this offseason when they traded away the best prospect in baseball. It still happens.
Exactly. All it takes is one team.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:18 PM
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Teams simply do not trade their good young prospects for a bandaid in July anymore. They have learned the hard way that the bandaid approach saps their farm system,which is the key to current sustained success.

Forget trading Peavy or Rios in July....they will not bring much of value.
The Giants did for a short term rent of Beltran. The Royals did last year. A budding team with a lot of young players might go for it.
Peavy absolutely should bring a lot - he's a low 1/high 2 and there won't be many of those on the market. Williams didn't bring in much (and he wasn't dealing a Peavy) but I don't know what he was doing with his trades anyway.

But to sit with this team is to keep ourselves the Milwaukee Bucks.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:19 PM
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Why? Because in the new MLB paradigm, teams are more relunctant to trade away top prospects for short term help.

They see the best teams nurture their own prospects,and bring in new ones each year helping to sustain success.
Peavy would not be short term. He is signed for next year plus an option. He is not a half year rental player who becomes a free agent.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:58 PM
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The problem is Ramirez has been making mental errors for the past three years. I don't think time off to clear his head will do any good...he is what he is, he's in his 30's now, he's not going to change one iota.

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Never been a big fan of his, he has not matured one iota as a ballplayer.
A recurring gripe of mine on TCM is that he will frequently make the outstanding play, but all too often, he will fail to make the routine play. Failing to cover 2B with the lefty batting Rizzo batting falls into this. I don't know if it a lack of concentration, just lazy, or what. But I will agree with you here, Lip - he isn't going to change if he has gotten by with it this long.

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The moment I lost confidence in Alexei was two years ago in KC when he got thrown out at first on a hot single to rightfield and then put his arms up in the air while staring down the RFer like "you're not allowed to do that."
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