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Old 06-06-2013, 08:58 PM
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My problem with Anderson is more, I do not trust our farm system at all. We have had NO SUCCESS with these toolsy guys.... We suck at development, and we take another super raw guy who we will kill and not develop properly....time for Buddy Bell to take a hike
You don't really expect any organization to decide "we are terrible at player development, so we are therefore going to avoid certain players" do you?
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My problem with Anderson is more, I do not trust our farm system at all. We have had NO SUCCESS with these toolsy guys.... We suck at development, and we take another super raw guy who we will kill and not develop properly....time for Buddy Bell to take a hike
That's fair, but I don't think they have to be toolsy for our system not to develop them.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:59 PM
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Is there any team better at developing pitching than Tampa Bay? I fully expect Stanek to make anyone taken between 10 and 28 look pretty bad.
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Rays are the best possible landing spot for Stanek.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:59 PM
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My problem with Anderson is more, I do not trust our farm system at all. We have had NO SUCCESS with these toolsy guys.... We suck at development, and we take another super raw guy who we will kill and not develop properly....time for Buddy Bell to take a hike
For better or worse, I am going to have to agree here. Until they make something good out of those type of players, I can't have faith. Hopefully Thompson proves me wrong. Se will have to see. At least he should be a hard worker and handled adversity well.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:03 PM
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You don't really expect any organization to decide "we are terrible at player development, so we are therefore going to avoid certain players" do you?
Oh I think 100% teams know their strengths and weaknesses enough to say "We have not had luck with this type of prospect"...

I will put it this way, with a first round pick, I Would rather take a player we felt we could make a solid big leaguer vs. a guy we rolled the dice might be a good big leaguer.

Craig Goldstein of MLBdraftinsider just told me in their chat he thinks Anderson's ceiling is average glove at SS, 270 average, 20 homers 30 SB, but thats his maxes, and likely wont get to the average or power..... It just seems scouts either are or are not an Anderson fan. No gray area.
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For better or worse, I am going to have to agree here. Until they make something good out of those type of players, I can't have faith. Hopefully Thompson proves me wrong. Se will have to see. At least he should be a hard worker and handled adversity well.
Development aside, toolsy players make great trade chips.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:06 PM
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Oh I think 100% teams know their strengths and weaknesses enough to say "We have not had luck with this type of prospect"...

I will put it this way, with a first round pick, I Would rather take a player we felt we could make a solid big leaguer vs. a guy we rolled the dice might be a good big leaguer.

Craig Goldstein of MLBdraftinsider just told me in their chat he thinks Anderson's ceiling is average glove at SS, 270 average, 20 homers 30 SB, but thats his maxes, and likely wont get to the average or power..... It just seems scouts either are or are not an Anderson fan. No gray area.
No offense to Goldstein, but that was the book on Anderson months ago. It's possible he doesn't see his improvement as the result of improved approach, but it's more likely he simply hasn't been paying attention. That's not a knock, the kid really did come out of nowhere to improve from a 6 round pick to a first round pick on almost every board in less than two months.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:15 PM
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I will put it this way, with a first round pick, I Would rather take a player we felt we could make a solid big leaguer vs. a guy we rolled the dice might be a good big leaguer.
Based on this, we should only draft injury prone pitchers.
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Reading CBS Sports description of our draft pick it sounds like we drafted a faster Royce Clayton. Please tell me thats not true...
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Reading CBS Sports description of our draft pick it sounds like we drafted a faster Royce Clayton. Please tell me thats not true...
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:16 PM
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Reading CBS Sports description of our draft pick it sounds like we drafted a faster Royce Clayton. Please tell me thats not true...
Rip on Clayton all you want, but the Sox will be very lucky if this guy can play 17 years in the Show.....
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:21 PM
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What's with us and drafting pitchers that are shoe in's for an elbow injury? Seriously.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:22 PM
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Tyler Danish is our next pick. Will have to be more of a trickster with extremely unorthodox mechanics.
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