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Old 06-13-2013, 09:44 PM
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I can think of about 29 other MLB teams that also picked up guys who were past their prime.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:46 PM
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I can think of about 29 other MLB teams that also picked up guys who were past their prime.
Are you going to post about it at 29 other fan boards, too?
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:45 PM
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To be the "glass half full" contrarian, I think we could come up with a pretty decent list of players the Sox have produced, and/or acquired early in their careers, and/or started with the Sox and went on to productive careers elsewhere, and/or reached their career peak with the Sox, just in the last 35 years, starting with:

Harold Baines
Britt Burns
Richard Dotson
LaMarr Hoyt
Ron Kittle
Carlton Fisk (played more games with us than BOS)
Greg Walker (nice first half to his career)
Ozzie Guillen
Ivan Calderon
Bobby Bonilla (we developed him)
Bobby Thigpen
Ron Karkovice
Lance Johnson
Jack McDowell
Robin Ventura
Frank Thomas
Alex Fernandez
Wilson Alvarez
Roberto Hernandez
Mike Cameron (we developed him)
Ray Durham
Keith Foulke
Paul Konerko
Magglio Ordonez
Carlos Lee
Chad Bradford (we developed him)
Joe Crede
Mark Buehrle
Jon Garland
Aaron Rowand
Bobby Jenks
Matt Thornton
John Danks
Carlos Quentin
Alexei Ramirez
Chris Sale

I think it's also fair to say these players grown elsewhere reached their career peaks with the Sox:

Jermaine Dye
Scott Podsednik
AJ Pierzynski
Freddy Garcia
Jose Contreras

You may now continue with your "woe is me" pity party.
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:30 AM
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To be the "glass half full" contrarian, I think we could come up with a pretty decent list of players the Sox have produced, and/or acquired early in their careers, and/or started with the Sox and went on to productive careers elsewhere, and/or reached their career peak with the Sox, just in the last 35 years, starting with:

Harold Baines
Britt Burns
Richard Dotson
LaMarr Hoyt
Ron Kittle
Carlton Fisk (played more games with us than BOS)
Greg Walker (nice first half to his career)
Ozzie Guillen
Ivan Calderon
Bobby Bonilla (we developed him)
Bobby Thigpen
Ron Karkovice
Lance Johnson
Jack McDowell
Robin Ventura
Frank Thomas
Alex Fernandez
Wilson Alvarez
Roberto Hernandez
Mike Cameron (we developed him)
Ray Durham
Keith Foulke
Paul Konerko
Magglio Ordonez
Carlos Lee
Chad Bradford (we developed him)
Joe Crede
Mark Buehrle
Jon Garland
Aaron Rowand
Bobby Jenks
Matt Thornton
John Danks
Carlos Quentin
Alexei Ramirez
Chris Sale

I think it's also fair to say these players grown elsewhere reached their career peaks with the Sox:

Jermaine Dye
Scott Podsednik
AJ Pierzynski
Freddy Garcia
Jose Contreras

You may now continue with your "woe is me" pity party.
Great job. I'll list just one over 35 years but maybe the best acquistion Nellie Fox.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:29 AM
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:39 AM
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:11 AM
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Burks had a very solid year for the Sox in 93 didn't he? I want to say he hit .275, 18 home runs, 75 RBI's.

What's wrong with that?

Sox refused to give him a multi year deal so he went to Colorado and became an all-star. Typical.

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I'm not counting this homerun or his 3 RBI from today's game because of the game situation. I'm not counting his pinch hit solo homerun in a blowout win in Colorado. In my book, Crede has 2 less home runs than his statistics show, 4 less RBI, and one less walk (the one where he pinch hit for Uribe after coming in with a 3-0 count and taking one pitch).
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:36 PM
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Taylor:

The thread title says "players acquired past their prime..."

Burks made the all star team with Colorado AFTER the Sox let him go, therefore he couldn't have been "past his prime" could he?

Also if guys are "past their prime" how could players like Seaver, Tartabull and Burks put up the numbers they did with the Sox?

Seems to me we differ on the definition of "past their prime."

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Old 06-14-2013, 01:01 PM
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Taylor:

The thread title says "players acquired past their prime..."

Burks made the all star team with Colorado AFTER the Sox let him go, therefore he couldn't have been "past his prime" could he?

Also if guys are "past their prime" how could players like Seaver, Tartabull and Burks put up the numbers they did with the Sox?

Seems to me we differ on the definition of "past their prime."

Lip
In baseball, prime usually means when a player is 28-32. That does not mean they can't have good seasons beyond that.
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:09 PM
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In baseball, prime usually means when a player is 28-32. That does not mean they can't have good seasons beyond that.
Well, Ellis was 28 when the Sox got him and his best years were ahead of him. Does not belong here.
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:26 PM
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To be the "glass half full" contrarian, I think we could come up with a pretty decent list of players the Sox have produced, and/or acquired early in their careers, and/or started with the Sox and went on to productive careers elsewhere, and/or reached their career peak with the Sox, just in the last 35 years, starting with: ...
Bobby Bonilla (we developed him) ...
The White Sox didn't develop Bobby Bonilla. The Pirates signed him to his first contract in 1981. Bonilla played for teams in the Pirates farm system in 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 and 1985. The White Sox claimed him in the Rule 5 draft in December 1985. He went to spring training with the Sox and played 75 major league games in 1986 before the Sox traded him to the Pirates in July for Jose Deleon. Ken Harrelson was the White Sox GM at the time. I believe Larry Himes replaced him at the end of the season. Bonilla was developed by the Pirates, lost him in an oversight and traded to get him back half a season later.
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The White Sox didn't develop Bobby Bonilla. The Pirates signed him to his first contract in 1981. Bonilla played for teams in the Pirates farm system in 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 and 1985. The White Sox claimed him in the Rule 5 draft in December 1985. He went to spring training with the Sox and played 75 major league games in 1986 before the Sox traded him to the Pirates in July for Jose Deleon. Ken Harrelson was the White Sox GM at the time. I believe Larry Himes replaced him at the end of the season. Bonilla was developed by the Pirates, lost him in an oversight and traded to get him back half a season later.
I stand corrected.
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Bobby Bonilla (we developed him)
Players we gave away would be another list.
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I totally forgot that in 2005 everyone the Sox recently added had great years, Pods, Freddy, Contreras, Everett, El Duque.

Compare that to the disaster of this year.
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