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But they usually don't win them without some either.
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I thought this article offered a lot of insight into the signing:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/201...tract-analysis
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Read my other post. He's dead last over the last two seasons in the only two advanced metrics that matter for pitchers, ERA+ and pWar
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I don't like the Pence contract either.
As for Lincecum, GM's have to be sitting there saying what the **** did you just do to this offseason's pitching market. I figured he'd get 10-12 mill per because of his name, but this is crazy. |
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If ERA+ is the end all be all, why does ERA have a surprisingly low year-to-year correlation compared to other stats that are much less prone to large fluctuations? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/basic...012-2002-2012/ |
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This could actually work out pretty well for us, since we have starting pitching depth. Other teams could have difficulty securing FA pitchers and get desperate to trade for one. Or they could just overpay them all. Who the heck knows?
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I would argue that ERA+ is good at telling how many runs a pitcher gave up in a way that normalizes it to ballpark and competition, but that the Giants are not basing the contract they gave to Lincecum solely on that aspect of his past performance. ERA+ can fluctuate (just like actual ERA) significantly and be impacted by strange things, and the Giants probably are looking deeper than that and saying that when looking at a bigger picture, Lincecum's recent past performance isn't as bad as a glance at ERA+ might say it was. |
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I wouldn't agree Danks was worse, either, when you consider ballpark factors and the fact the Sox had a far inferior defense. I'm starting to think people are disagreeing just because its blandman...paying 17.5 million for a guy you wouldn't even put in your playoff rotation is ridiculous.
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Generally a team can't win a championship without luck, but that luck doesn't make them lucky to win a championship. The Red Sox on Wednesday night were lucky to score five runs in the first two innings when they could have scored none because the Cardinals played such uncharacteristically poor defense. That doesn't mean it was a lucky win.
The Yankees might have lost the 1941 World Series but for a strike-three passed ball in the ninth. Giants in 2012 went into an NL postseason in which Steven Strasburg wasn't pitching, and hypothetically, it is possible he could have beaten them. The Mariners in 2003 were lucky that the Cubs collapsed after a fan behaved badly when it looked like their season was over. In addition to the Pierzynski ACLS strikeout that led to an ACLS win, the White Sox were lucky a double-play ground ball went through the legs of a Red Sox player in Game 2 of the 2005 ALDS. The 1983 Orioles were lucky the White Sox screwed up on the bases in Game 4 of the ALCS. That doesn't mean any of those teams were lucky to win the World Series or won the World Series because of luck. There are plenty of teams that get lucky breaks that don't capitalize on them to win championships. It doesn't mean the teams that do capitalize on lucky breaks are lucky to win. The Cardinals are not unlucky to have lost because their shortstop made errors and the team can't catch an infield fly at the pitcher's mound. By the same token, the White Sox were very unlucky in 2013. It doesn't mean they would be in the World Series if luck had gone their way. |
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If the White Sox had signed him to this deal we would have burned down the internet.
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Lincicum is a back of the rotation pitcher at this point. They could get the same production from Scott Feldman for the same money, but over 4 years.
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