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Old 10-24-2013, 09:54 AM
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No, no, no, no, and no.

Let it go already, folks.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:55 AM
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He didn't say Texas wasn't a contender. Maybe you should read his post again.
No, he said what joining a contender is valued at was over-emphasized. I contended that that's exactly what AJ did; he took the most money he could from a team that would contend. Which he will likely do again.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:56 AM
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Me thinks you don't know what "contention" means.
Haha...whoops
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:58 AM
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No, no, no, no, and no.

Let it go already, folks.
Who should be the starting C next year?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:04 AM
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No, he said what joining a contender is valued at was over-emphasized. I contended that that's exactly what AJ did; he took the most money he could from a team that would contend. Which he will likely do again.
I know what he said. You twisted his words into him saying Texas wasn't a contender:
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Texas isn't a contender? They had just been to back to back World Series... We don't really know that was the only offer out there for him. But the one year deal he signed was probably a mix of money and contention.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:06 AM
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I rather see the Sox go after Carlos Ruiz.
He's very underrated, doesn't strikeout a lot and has a very good fielding percentage.
Then go after Shin-Soo Choo.
I'm sure the reports that the Yankees want Choo is all hype by Boras to
spark more interest and jack up the $$$$
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:08 AM
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I know what he said. You twisted his words into him saying Texas wasn't a contender:
No, I countered his point with the fact that Texas was a contender and that's why AJ signed there because Texas, at the time, was the ultimate "contender" team. There was no twisting whatsoever.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:13 AM
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No, I countered his point with the fact that Texas was a contender and that's why AJ signed there because Texas, at the time, was the ultimate "contender" team. There was no twisting whatsoever.
Good Lord...he never said Texas wasn't a contender, and that AJ took the most lucrative offer for his services. Was there a team that offered him more $$$?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:15 AM
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Good Lord...he never said Texas wasn't a contender, and that AJ took the most lucrative offer for his services. Was there a team that offered him more $$$?
Now you're twisting. The only fact is that AJ signed with a contender. If you're going to make the point that contending didn't matter that much (like the OP did), it needs to be backed up by something.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:17 AM
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Who should be the starting C next year?
This is dependent upon what the Sox do with other black holes in the lineup, and, more importantly, whether they intend to contend in 2014 or not. I would agree that Flowers/Phegley is not the answer, but trades and other FAs could net something else. Also, depending on the rest, again, we could just have a C bat ninth. We'll see. If they do not intend to field a contender next season, a one-year deal for a catcher who will cost a bit more than you want to pay to fill a hole in a lineup that will still be bad isn't the way to go.

My point being that some see "AJ is a free agent!" and immediately think that is the answer.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:22 AM
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This is dependent upon what the Sox do with other black holes in the lineup, and, more importantly, whether they intend to contend in 2014 or not. I would agree that Flowers/Phegley is not the answer, but trades and other FAs could net something else. Also, depending on the rest, again, we could just have a C bat ninth. We'll see. If they do not intend to field a contender next season, a one-year deal for a catcher who will cost a bit more than you want to pay to fill a hole in a lineup that will still be bad isn't the way to go.

My point being that some see "AJ is a free agent!" and immediately think that is the answer.
Saltalamacchia is the only free agent answer that might fit our longer term needs. If we just need a body, go sign someone like John Buck or Geovany Soto for no money.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:27 AM
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Addison Reed told you why they didn't bring him back.
I missed this, what did Reed say?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:28 AM
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Now you're twisting. The only fact is that AJ signed with a contender. If you're going to make the point that contending didn't matter that much (like the OP did), it needs to be backed up by something.
What am I twisting exactly? And how is his signing with a contender the only fact? I would think the money involved is also a factor.

Fact: He signed with a contender.
Fact: he signed a one year deal for $7 Mil

Seems to be more than one fact there if I'm not mistaken.

Also, I haven't made a point. I asked a question. I'd be interested in knowing if someone offered him more money. The only fact for me is, I don't know for sure why AJ signed with Texas, and neither do you. Maybe it was because they were a contender. Maybe it was for the money. I haven't had the chance to ask him.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:29 AM
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I don't know about AJ but Flowers hit .196 and was horrible behind the plate and Phegley hit .206 and was less horrible behind the plate.

Basically the Sox need to bring in 2 new catchers.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:47 AM
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If we just need a body, go sign someone like John Buck or Geovany Soto for no money.
Agreed, if they have no interest in contending. If contending, signing a guy like one of these for backup is OK, too.
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