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Old 10-30-2013, 01:08 PM
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Default Beckham and Santiago to the Jays?

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http://MLB.com report: #BlueJays interested in #WhiteSox 2B Gordon Beckham: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/tor/toronto-blue-jays-interested-in-second-baseman-gordon-beckham?ymd=20131030&content_id=63520456&vkey=news _tor
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:23 PM
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Will they take back Nestor Molina? Man was that trade one of KW's worst or what?
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:35 PM
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Will they take back Nestor Molina? Man was that trade one of KW's worst or what?
Eh, nothing for nothing. The Swisher trades are numero uno in my book because of Gio.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:38 PM
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It would be great if the Jays took on Danks salary.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:57 PM
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The Jays have a lot of high end failed pitching prospects that probably have Don Cooper frothing at the mouth. Kyle Drabek and Ricky Romero, anyone?

Seriously, we should get those guys. I really think Coop can fix 'em.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:07 PM
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Eh, nothing for nothing. The Swisher trades are numero uno in my book because of Gio.
Yeah, precisely, we gave up garbage to get garbage, probably happens 1,000 times every MLB season
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:20 PM
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Eh, nothing for nothing.
Sergio Santos, whom KW traded for the great Nestor Molina, pitched awfully well in September. If he stays healthy -- a big "if" -- the trade will go down as undeniably terrible. Santos isn't close to being "nothing" or "garbage."

Plus, I thought RH was considering trading surplus piching for bats. Why would he want more surplus pitching like Romero and Drabek?
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:27 PM
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Sergio Santos, whom KW traded for the great Nestor Molina, pitched awfully well in September. If he stays healthy -- a big "if" -- the trade will go down as undeniably terrible. Santos isn't close to being "nothing" or "garbage."

Plus, I thought RH was considering trading surplus piching for bats. Why would he want more surplus pitching like Romero and Drabek?
I was referring to how the trade turned out. At the time it may have looked bad (or good if you thought Molina would be a stud), but as it turned out it was exactly nothing for nothing and definitely not KW's worst trade.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:33 PM
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Plus, I thought RH was considering trading surplus piching for bats. Why would he want more surplus pitching like Romero and Drabek?
Because more pitching means more leverage to find more bats?

Plus, the Sox currently have 3 pitchers really set in stone for the 2014 season; Sale and Quintana based on merit, and Danks based on contract. After that there's still a whole lot of question marks. Johnson looked good but is untested. Santiago and Reinzo have been up and down, and the jury is still out on them. I'd prefer to not talk about Axelrod... No team in baseball history has lamented the amount of arms it has in its arsenal.

Plus, between Keppinger, Semien, and Sanchez the Sox probably feel like they can find someone to play 2B next season if Beckham is dealt. And it's not like trading him will negatively effect the offense. Man, does he suck.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:34 PM
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Beckham is getting married in less than 2 weeks. Congrats and surprise, you and your wife are moving to Toronto!
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Mlbtraderumors is reporting this rumor, as well.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
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Mlbtraderumors is reporting this rumor, as well.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Well they just recycle content, their source is the same article that is linked in the OP
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:41 PM
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I was referring to how the trade turned out. At the time it may have looked bad (or good if you thought Molina would be a stud), but as it turned out it was exactly nothing for nothing and definitely not KW's worst trade.
I think you missed a key part of that previous post by Chez. It doesn't say he pitched awful. It says he pitched awfully well.

Season stats (most of which came in August and September):
25 IP
11 H
4 BB (2 IBB)
28 K
1.75 ERA

So at the time it may have looked bad. At this time, it also looks bad.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:51 PM
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I think you missed a key part of that previous post by Chez. It doesn't say he pitched awful. It says he pitched awfully well.

Season stats (most of which came in August and September):
25 IP
11 H
4 BB (2 IBB)
28 K
1.75 ERA

So at the time it may have looked bad. At this time, it also looks bad.
At the time it may have looked bad. At this time, it is a nothing trade. Unless you think that Santos could have netted anything useful. We'll never know, but I have my doubts. People don't generally trade much for closers unless it is a closer with a much more established record.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:59 PM
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Would be awesome to get Lawrie in the deal
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