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Old 10-19-2013, 07:07 PM
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A pitcher 1 year removed from shoulder surgery.
How is this any different from what Peavy went through? He came here on an injury, pitched a half a season before needing unprecedented shoulder surgery, had a bad year being 1 year removed from shoulder surgery, then pitched a respectable season and a half for us before getting traded.
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Old 10-20-2013, 03:10 AM
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How is this any different from what Peavy went through? He came here on an injury, pitched a half a season before needing unprecedented shoulder surgery, had a bad year being 1 year removed from shoulder surgery, then pitched a respectable season and a half for us before getting traded.
Agreed. And if Danks doesn't perform in the near future then, yes, he can be considered a failure based on the expectations that existed when he signed his deal. Equivocating between the two situations only lends credence to JB98's assertion that certain individuals "hate" Peavy.

Either a guy performs or he doesn't; the reason why he doesn't perform, whether it be related to injury or some other issue, is meaningless in the general scheme of things except to the player himself and, perhaps, the organization paying him.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:23 AM
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A pitcher 1 year removed from shoulder surgery.
A career sub .500 pitcher w an ERA of 4.15 before shoulder surgery
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:53 AM
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Danks and Peavy have that similarity...their peripherals look better than they actually produced. And they were both way overpaid for what they produced.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:17 PM
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A career sub .500 pitcher w an ERA of 4.15 before shoulder surgery
Yes, the most important stats.
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I'm not counting this homerun or his 3 RBI from today's game because of the game situation. I'm not counting his pinch hit solo homerun in a blowout win in Colorado. In my book, Crede has 2 less home runs than his statistics show, 4 less RBI, and one less walk (the one where he pinch hit for Uribe after coming in with a 3-0 count and taking one pitch).
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:23 PM
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Yes, the most important stats.
Same to you. There are plenty of stats out there to show that Danks has been nothing special after showing early promise. Believe it or not if baseball still exists in a century people will still consider the older un hip stats when judging a player.
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:28 PM
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I like Peavy and appreciate his bulldog mentality, but Peavy for Garcia = highway robbery.
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Old 10-20-2013, 03:57 PM
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Yes, the most important stats.
You may not like ERA, but every playoff team this season has an ERA below 4.00. In the NL, the top 5 teams in ERA were the 5 who made it to the playoffs.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:13 PM
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I like Peavy and appreciate his bulldog mentality, but Peavy for Garcia = highway robbery.
This, I will not disagree with. I think the Sox got their RF of the present and future for a veteran pitcher with a history of injury troubles. I liked the trade the day it was made, and I still like it now after what I've seen of Garcia.

I just think the snark with regard to Peavy is totally uncalled for. I'll also add that I agree with posters who say judge Danks after next season. I knew he would struggle this year coming off surgery. Next year will tell the tale as to whether he's going to make it back. Frankly, Danks' peripherals weren't all that bad this year. He did, however, give up some backbreaking home runs. We'll see if that continues or changes in 2014.
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:46 PM
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Congrats on your new ring, Jake.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:07 PM
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Congrats Jake
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:52 PM
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Congrats Jake
and congrats to Matt Thornton as well!
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