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Old 02-16-2014, 11:27 PM
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Yeah, but as a Rule V draftee, the Sox have to keep him on the Major League roster or lose the fee they paid for him. Not sure why the Sox would have taken him if they had no intention of at least giving him a chance.
I think they do intend to give him a big chance.
While A ball is far away from the majors, the bar he has to beat - Flowers and Phegley - is far below the average major league bar.
And like Tom says, nurse him along, put him in favorable matchups. Might need to work a trade out; or we may just want to dump him. We'll see.
I guess I'm the only one, but I liked this Rule V pick a lot.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:35 AM
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Flowers and Phegley......Yea!!! This should blow up in the Sox face by mid-April.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:17 PM
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It would be bitching weather. Bitching that it's too hot.
Nah, 80 in Phoenix is barely warm. Nothing like 80 round these parts. I used to live in Phoenix, came back one summer and was more uncomfortable here where it was 30 degrees cooler, sweating my ass off. 80 in Phoenix you might need a light jacket.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:41 PM
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Merkin Tweeted that Abreu hit a homer in BP that went somewhere between 450 and 800 feet.
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Adam Eaton said they call Abreu "oso," which is Bear in Spanish. They also call him Yogi, based on his size.

Beckham is here. Gillaspie is here. Keppinger is here as well.


Jones told me he'll go back to working out Wednesday and then get back on the mound soon. No target date but still not worried glute-wise


No update on Belisario and his visa. Everyone else is expected to be in camp Thursday. Avisail Garcia officially has arrived






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Old 02-19-2014, 03:23 AM
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Flowers and Phegley......Yea!!! This should blow up in the Sox face by mid-April.
I have to think that the Sox know that Flowers and Phegley are probably not long term answers at catcher. But I really like the fact that the Sox are showing patience and waiting for the opportunity to make a significant upgrade at the position.

The free agent options at catcher were not great. The best available catcher, Brian McCann, turns 30 tomorrow and does have a lot of catching miles on him. The other options, including Jarrod Saltalamacchia, were not so great. So, rather than force a move that isn't so hot, the Sox are biding their time and waiting to make a significant upgrade. Not settling for a lesser option is a good thing.

And, who knows? Maybe, as rumored, Houston makes Jason Castro available. If the Sox can find a way to acquire Castro, that would be outstanding. Or maybe the Sox draft California high schooler Alex Jackson, he sticks at catcher and hits a ton. That would be really good, too.
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:43 AM
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Adam Eaton said they call Abreu "oso," which is Bear in Spanish. They also call him Yogi, based on his size.

Beckham is here. Gillaspie is here. Keppinger is here as well.


Jones told me he'll go back to working out Wednesday and then get back on the mound soon. No target date but still not worried glute-wise


No update on Belisario and his visa. Everyone else is expected to be in camp Thursday. Avisail Garcia officially has arrived






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"Oso" for Abreu- I like it- getting pretty excited about him from the early reports-
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:54 AM
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And, who knows? Maybe, as rumored, Houston makes Jason Castro available. If the Sox can find a way to acquire Castro, that would be outstanding. Or maybe the Sox draft California high schooler Alex Jackson, he sticks at catcher and hits a ton. That would be really good, too.
While I think they should go BPA at 3, I'm not a huge fan of drafting a catcher at such a high position. They're so volatile. For every Buster Posey, it seems like there are five like Jeff Clement or Kyle Skipworth.
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While I think they should go BPA at 3, I'm not a huge fan of drafting a catcher at such a high position. They're so volatile. For every Buster Posey, it seems like there are five like Jeff Clement or Kyle Skipworth.
That's true of pretty much every high draft pick. Some hit. Many bust.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:47 AM
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While I think they should go BPA at 3, I'm not a huge fan of drafting a catcher at such a high position. They're so volatile. For every Buster Posey, it seems like there are five like Jeff Clement or Kyle Skipworth.
Here is the thing I like about a C

(1) While you need to hit a home run at 3, if you don't, you still want a productive big league player. At Catcher, if his D is great, you can live with a softer bat

(2) The downside is, if his bat is his value, you have to do what the Nationals did with Harper and move him to the OF. Don't let him shorten his career by sticking at catcher and killing his knees. The Twins just did the same with Mauer to extend his career.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:01 AM
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Here is the thing I like about a C

(1) While you need to hit a home run at 3, if you don't, you still want a productive big league player. At Catcher, if his D is great, you can live with a softer bat

(2) The downside is, if his bat is his value, you have to do what the Nationals did with Harper and move him to the OF. Don't let him shorten his career by sticking at catcher and killing his knees. The Twins just did the same with Mauer to extend his career.
Or the way the White Sox extended Carlton Fisk's career by moving him to the outfield. (Teal implied.) Anyway, Ken Harrelson, the GM at the time, said moving Fisk to the outfield would extend his career.

What you do with a player depends on the individual player, or at least it should. Buster Posey started college as a shortstop and had more to learn about catching than hitting as a minor leaguer after he was drafted in the first round. As a catcher, he was a big part of two championships runs. Eventually, he will probably end up playing first base, but right now the Giants are much better defensively when he catches. Part of it is that he isn't a very good defensive first baseman.

Ron Karkovice was a first-round draft pick. He was never a great hitter, but he was really the only very good defensive catcher to come out of the White Sox farm system since Ed Herrmann and was what the White Sox needed behind the plate circa 1993.

I think a catcher should primarily be strong defensively. I think it's necessary for a team to have a strong defensive catcher.
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Here is the thing I like about a C

(1) While you need to hit a home run at 3, if you don't, you still want a productive big league player. At Catcher, if his D is great, you can live with a softer bat

(2) The downside is, if his bat is his value, you have to do what the Nationals did with Harper and move him to the OF. Don't let him shorten his career by sticking at catcher and killing his knees. The Twins just did the same with Mauer to extend his career.
That's fine IF the C prospect actually projects out to having an elite bat equivalent to the elite outfielder. But usually what is a great bat for a C is mediocre for an outfielder.
Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot of resource chasing catcher's bats...just find a capable defender.
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Next Friday's spring training game vs. Dodgers is on MLB Network-

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Next Friday's spring training game vs. Dodgers is on MLB Network-
It would be even better if my cable company hadn't dropped MLB Network 2 weeks ago
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