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Old 04-25-2014, 03:07 PM
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I see in my break from this thread we now have Buehrle being mentioned in the same breath as Ryan and Clemens.

If Mark Buehrle had never pitched for the White Sox, the notion of him being a HOF-worthy player to the folks who think he is would be laughable.
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:16 PM
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The single most amazing thing about Buehrle is with all of those 200 IP seasons, he has not spent so much as a day on the DL as far as I can recall.

Is there any pitcher in the last 20 years who pitched at least a dozen full seasons as a starter who can say that?
Greg Maddux had a stretch of 18 of 19 seasons over 200 IP. The year he didn't - 199.
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:48 PM
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Greg Maddux had a stretch of 18 of 19 seasons over 200 IP. The year he didn't - 199.
I think he got 199 during a strike year too.
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:55 PM
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I see in my break from this thread we now have Buehrle being mentioned in the same breath as Ryan and Clemens.

If Mark Buehrle had never pitched for the White Sox, the notion of him being a HOF-worthy player to the folks who think he is would be laughable.
Well Nolan Ryan was pretty overrated. Buehrle has had 3 seasons with era plus over 130, Nolan Ryan has only had 4. Plus Ryan had a whip which is kind of the benchmark for pitchers which was pretty bad while playing in pitchers parks and for the most part during a pitchers era. I know Buehrle isn't as good as Ryan but I don't think Ryan and Buehrle will be too far off when Buehrle does retire as long as he has 2-3 more good seasons. Currently I have Ryan as the 23rd best pitcher of all time. Buehrle can possibly make my top 40.

Clemens is in my top 10, he's number 2 with no ped discount.
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:12 PM
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Toronto IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Buehrle(L, 4-1) 5.1 12 7 6 3 0 1 2.16

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Old 04-25-2014, 10:27 PM
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Toronto IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Buehrle(L, 4-1) 5.1 12 7 6 3 0 1 2.16

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Yep he had a decent first inning but at least he got 5.1 innings in. I didn't think he'd get this roughed up though. His war will probably drop down to around 1.2 for the season because of this.
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Old 05-07-2014, 09:25 PM
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Beat Cliff Lee tonight. Pitched a very good game tonight too.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:21 PM
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Beat Cliff Lee tonight. Pitched a very good game tonight too.
If no Sox pitcher wins it (with Sale out, no real shot), I want MB's stats to be as gaudy as they can be so he can get a Cy Young award. Adding one of those would really bolster his resume. He has a lot of work to do over the next 3-4 years to have a real shot at it.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:48 PM
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:54 PM
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I would love to see him back, but I can't see JR authorizing that kind of money. Jays would have to eat a fair chunk of that contract the next two years. Meanwhile a team like the Yankees would simply laugh and say, "fine, send him over."
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:35 AM
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I hope he wins 20+ games and the Cy Young this year too. Though I wonder if that happened, would it lead him to want to retire sooner?
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:54 AM
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I hope he wins 20+ games and the Cy Young this year too. Though I wonder if that happened, would it lead him to want to retire sooner?
If he retires in the same way Mussina did, I will lose a little respect for him. Mussina won 20 games his last year and was probably 1-2 years away from 300 wins. I know we always hear about Buehrle retiring early and I can handle that but if he's close to some Hall of Fame milestones and quits then I wont look at him the same way.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:41 PM
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If he retires in the same way Mussina did, I will lose a little respect for him. Mussina won 20 games his last year and was probably 1-2 years away from 300 wins. I know we always hear about Buehrle retiring early and I can handle that but if he's close to some Hall of Fame milestones and quits then I wont look at him the same way.
Why does it bother you that people don't gauge their self-fulfillment by outsider's perceptions of them?
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:03 PM
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Buehrle beat LAA tonight. He's now 7-1 this season, and 7 wins away from 200 in his career.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:44 PM
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5 walks today, that's not so vintage.
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