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Old 04-25-2014, 07:47 PM
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Cool map from the New York Times maps MLB fans by region and metro areas. Of course White Sox Nation dominates on the South Side and south suburbs with the exception of Hyde Park (???).

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ml?rref=upshot
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Cool map from the New York Times maps MLB fans by region and metro areas. Of course White Sox Nation dominates on the South Side and south suburbs with the exception of Hyde Park (???).

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ml?rref=upshot
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This map that shows each ZIP code's second favorite team is very interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/up...ite-teams.html

Baseball is still very much a locally or regionally driven sport with only 2 true national teams; unfortunately the Yankees and Red Sox. But it shows why those two get so much attention. They really do captivate the entire country for some reason.
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They really do captivate the entire country for some reason.
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I'll take Four Letter Acronyms That Begin With E for 1000, Alex.
I guess that is the chicken and egg question, are all these people suddenly Red Sox/Yankee fans because of ESPN or is ESPN, who are in the sports entertainment business, simply responding to the obvious market?
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This map that shows each ZIP code's second favorite team is very interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/up...ite-teams.html

Baseball is still very much a locally or regionally driven sport with only 2 true national teams; unfortunately the Yankees and Red Sox. But it shows why those two get so much attention. They really do captivate the entire country for some reason.
Poor NY Mets fans. Even in outer boroughs like Queens and Brooklyn, the Mets have a hard time breaking 20 or 25 per cent in some zip codes. In New Jersey and Westchester county some zip codes barely get double digits with the Red Sox giving them a run for their money.
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I guess that is the chicken and egg question, are all these people suddenly Red Sox/Yankee fans because of ESPN or is ESPN, who are in the sports entertainment business, simply responding to the obvious market?
They feed each other. This has been very apparent since Boston's 2004 World Series championship.
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I know that this isn't exactly a thorough study and that the data skews young and may not exactly represent the fan bases as a whole, but I did notice something a bit interesting. Cubs Likes - 2.1 million, White Sox Likes - 1.4 million. So Cub fans outnumber us by a factor of 1.5.

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2013 - 1.47:1
2012 - 1.46:1
2011 - 1.51:1
2010 - 1.39:1

I'll stop there because when the Sox are good and draw better than their average it's impossible for the Cubs to maintain that ratio. It's also worthwhile to point out that Cubs were only above 90% capacity in one of seasons, too.
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I guess that is the chicken and egg question, are all these people suddenly Red Sox/Yankee fans because of ESPN or is ESPN, who are in the sports entertainment business, simply responding to the obvious market?
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They feed each other. This has been very apparent since Boston's 2004 World Series championship.

In heavy Yankees areas those who hate NY will vote themselves as Red Sox fans. If " anyone but the Yankees" was on the list, this would be the
choice over Boston. This has been going on since the 1950's.
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There have been Yankees fans across America LONG before ESPN. New York alone did not make legends out of Babe Ruth, Lou Gherig, Joe Dimaggio and Mickey Mantle.
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This map that shows each ZIP code's second favorite team is very interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/up...ite-teams.html

Baseball is still very much a locally or regionally driven sport with only 2 true national teams; unfortunately the Yankees and Red Sox. But it shows why those two get so much attention. They really do captivate the entire country for some reason.
Unlike the first map, I couldn't get the 2nd favorite team map to zoom in by zip code.
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Unlike the first map, I couldn't get the 2nd favorite team map to zoom in by zip code.
I doubt they added interactive redundancy for this map since you can open up the first one and highlight any ZIP Code or county (depending on your zoom level) and get the percentages of the top 3 favorite teams in those areas. This one is just an image file.
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There have been Yankees fans across America LONG before ESPN. New York alone did not make legends out of Babe Ruth, Lou Gherig, Joe Dimaggio and Mickey Mantle.
Yankees, yes. Red Sox, no. ESPN made the Red Sox popular across the country the way WGN on cable made the Cubs popular.
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I guess that is the chicken and egg question, are all these people suddenly Red Sox/Yankee fans because of ESPN or is ESPN, who are in the sports entertainment business, simply responding to the obvious market?
My sense is that the Yanks have always had national fans, but national Boston fans is a recent ESPN-fueled thing.
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