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Old 06-09-2014, 10:41 PM
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Beckham dominated the minor leagues in his short stay from 2008-2009.

I guess if you're looking for someone more lasting, Brian Anderson hit pretty well, especially in '05, his last full season in the minors. Maybe not god-like offensive production, but extremely high considering he was also a Gold Glove caliber defensive player at a premium position.

Probably the last guy though who really looked like he was going to be a cornerstone All-Star for years to come would probably be Crede.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:09 PM
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Beckham dominated the minor leagues in his short stay from 2008-2009.

I guess if you're looking for someone more lasting, Brian Anderson hit pretty well, especially in '05, his last full season in the minors. Maybe not god-like offensive production, but extremely high considering he was also a Gold Glove caliber defensive player at a premium position.

Probably the last guy though who really looked like he was going to be a cornerstone All-Star for years to come would probably be Crede.
Remember future Hall of Famer Jeremy Reed? A lot of fans were pissed we traded him for Freddy Garcia.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:37 PM
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Micah Johnson is not an OF, moving him out there would be pure folly. He may be athletic enough, but he does not have the instincts.
I'm just speculating- what makes you say OF is not an option for him?

Especially based on his defense at 2nd? Hahn has hinted that a position change might happen down the road once he's acclimated to AAA-
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:10 PM
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I'm just speculating- what makes you say OF is not an option for him?

Especially based on his defense at 2nd? Hahn has hinted that a position change might happen down the road once he's acclimated to AAA-
I watched him try to play OF in college, just brutal. Granted that was awhile ago, but all attempts for him to play out there since have had sub-optimal results. Again, he's a great athlete, but he doesn't have the instincts. Hopefully he will prove me dead wrong one day, because he's not the greatest 2B either.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:44 PM
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Who was the last Sox prospect that just 'raked' at AA or AAA? Our best young position players seem to come into the system MLB-ready (I'm thinking of Garcia, Abreu, and maybe Gilaspie).

Viciedo never hit above .300. I guess Beckham might be the answer but he wasn't there for very long.

It seems like a lot of Sox prospects either regress (like Davidson) or never seem to amount to 'sure things' at the next level. I'm thinking of guys like Hawkins, Barnum, Mitchell, Thompson, Walker, and Davidson (so far). I keep checking in on this thread, hoping to see someone with a slash line that jumps off the page, and it's usually a collection of guys hovering around .250 with way too many Ks.

I guess you can't have everything and the Sox do seem to find/develop pitching, but it'd be nice if one of these position players pan out. Maybe Tim Anderson will be that guy, but it doesn't look like we have anyone like Kris Bryant in the system currently.
I'm not defending the Sox farm system success rate by any means, but to be fair, the Cubs got Kris Bryant because they had the #2 overall pick last spring

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Beckham dominated the minor leagues in his short stay from 2008-2009.

I guess if you're looking for someone more lasting, Brian Anderson hit pretty well, especially in '05, his last full season in the minors. Maybe not god-like offensive production, but extremely high considering he was also a Gold Glove caliber defensive player at a premium position.

Probably the last guy though who really looked like he was going to be a cornerstone All-Star for years to come would probably be Crede.
Crede was drafted in 1996. Wow - eighteen years.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:54 PM
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I'm not defending the Sox farm system success rate by any means, but to be fair, the Cubs got Kris Bryant because they had the #2 overall pick last spring
Right, the Sox haven't had a draft pick that high since 1977.
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:09 AM
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Current Records:
Charlotte (24- 46)
Birmingham (29- 41)
Winston-Salem (30- 39)
Kannapolis (29- 38)

Notables:
Carlos Sanchez (Charlotte) .300/.367/.423, 4 HR, 31 RBI, 27 BB, 57 K, 10 SB
Tyler Saladino (Charlotte) .297/.354/.470, 6 HR, 28 RBI, 20 BB, 36 K, 5 SB
Marcus Semien (Charlotte) .255/.386/.511, 3 HR, 6 RBI, 9 BB, 7 K, 1 SB
Josh Phegley (Charlotte) .241/.319/.472, 9 HR, 26 RBI, 18 BB, 36 K
Kevan Smith (Birmingham) .302/.377/.450, 4 HR, 23 RBI, 19 BB, 35 K, 1 SB
Rangel Ravelo (Birmingham) .295/.390/.432, 4 HR, 27 RBI, 32 BB, 37 K, 3 SB
Justin Jirschele (W/S) .441/.500/.515, 0 HR, 3 RBI, 8 BB, 2 K, 2 SB
Tim Anderson (W/S) .298/.328/.469, 4 HR, 25 RBI, 7 BB, 59 K, 10 SB
Courtney Hawkins (W/S) .252/.341/.457, 10 HR, 46 RBI, 31 BB, 72 K, 6 SB
Trey Michalczewski (Kannapolis) .288/.370/.455, 5 HR, 41 RBI, 28 BB, 73 K, 4 SB


Chris Beck (Birmingham) 3- 6, 3.39 ERA, 79.2 IP, 80 H, 23 BB, 40 K, 1.29 WHIP
Scott Snodgress (Birmingham) 3- 6, 4.64 ERA, 77.2 IP, 86 H, 33 BB, 56 K, 1.53 WHIP
Mike Recchia (Birmingham) 2- 2, 2.73 ERA, 33 IP, 27 H, 9 BB, 29 K, 1.09 WHIP
Francellis Montas (W/S) 3- 0, 1.76 ERA, 51 IP, 36 H, 11 BB, 49 K, 0.92 WHIP
Tyler Danish (W/S) 1- 1, 5.48 ERA, 21.1 IP, 29 H, 4 BB, 19 K, 1.55 WHIP

Forgettables:
Jared Mitchell (Charlotte) .199/.348/.327, 5 HR, 14 RBI, 32 BB, 78 K, 8 SB
Matt Davidson (Charlotte) .180/.252/.356, 10 HR, 21 RBI, 20 BB, 85 K
Kennyn Walker (W/S) .194/.310/.250, 0 HR, 3 RBI, 6 BB, 21 K, 3 SB
Tyler Shryock (Kannapolis) .180/.271/.195, 0 HR, 7 RBI, 14 BB, 22 K, 4 SB

Erik Johnson (Charlotte) 1- 4, 6.70 ERA, 47 IP, 54 H, 29 BB, 34 K, 1.77 WHIP
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Wow, do we have any prospects in the system at any level that don't strike out at amazing clips? I know the current wisdom is that strikeouts don't matter, but if you can't put the bat on the ball in the minors, it won't get easier in the bigs.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:19 AM
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Wow, do we have any prospects in the system at any level that don't strike out at amazing clips? I know the current wisdom is that strikeouts don't matter, but if you can't put the bat on the ball in the minors, it won't get easier in the bigs.
Rangel Ravelo would be one to keep an eye on as a sleeper. Unfortunately, he was moved from 3B to 1B (and nobody seems to know why). He might not grow into the power needed for 1B, not to mention a nice roadblock up here now.

On a somewhat related note (minor league moves that don't make sense)...does anybody know why Nick Basto was transferred to Extended Spring Training after a nice start to the year? Position change?
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:33 AM
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Anyone know where Micker Adolfo (AKA Zapata) is? I thought he was supposed to get his feet wet in the DSL this year but it's been over 2 weeks into their season and he doesn't appear to have played for them yet. Can't fine any news on him being injured or reassigned, just trying to keep tabs on the best young Latin American signing the Sox have made in a long, long while.
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Anyone know where Micker Adolfo (AKA Zapata) is? I thought he was supposed to get his feet wet in the DSL this year but it's been over 2 weeks into their season and he doesn't appear to have played for them yet. Can't fine any news on him being injured or reassigned, just trying to keep tabs on the best young Latin American signing the Sox have made in a long, long while.
From What I've heard they are going to keep him in the states and he'll play in the AZL.
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Old 06-16-2014, 04:20 PM
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Padilla tweeted today that Jared Mitchell was sent down to AA. I have to feel this, along with his current struggles, doesn't bode well for his career here, or at least with this organization. Amazing what a devastating injury can do to a promising young player.
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:03 PM
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Padilla tweeted today that Jared Mitchell was sent down to AA. I have to feel this, along with his current struggles, doesn't bode well for his career here, or at least with this organization. Amazing what a devastating injury can do to a promising young player.
I hate to say it, but it's starting to look like he will be released some time this year.

The Phillies released Anthony Hewitt last week after demoting him earlier this year. Anthony was a first round draft pick in 2008 and a year younger than Jared.
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I think Mitchell's status as a former first-round pick is the only thing that has kept him in the organization for this long.
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I think Mitchell's status as a former first-round pick is the only thing that has kept him in the organization for this long.
I agree. It is probably time to pull the plug. Maybe a change of scenery (outside the organization) would benefit him.

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