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Old 04-07-2018, 05:04 PM
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Old 04-07-2018, 05:41 PM
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The stiff should be flat out released. He's not going to get any better, you know it, I know it, HE knows it.

He is not a major league pitcher and doesn't belong in the organization moving forward, let him be someone else's problem.

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Old 04-07-2018, 07:04 PM
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:07 PM
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The stiff should be flat out released. He's not going to get any better, you know it, I know it, HE knows it.

He is not a major league pitcher and doesn't belong in the organization moving forward, let him be someone else's problem.
100%. I actually tip my hat to Hahn or Renteria on pulling the trigger this early. It's next man up with these fringed players. Need to give someone who wants to throw strikes consideration.

Good to see the leash is short for these AAAA guys.

Infante, Bummer, Engel are now on the clock.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:23 PM
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The stiff should be flat out released. He's not going to get any better, you know it, I know it, HE knows it.

He is not a major league pitcher and doesn't belong in the organization moving forward, let him be someone else's problem.
The minors are loaded with players who either will never make a major league roster or who have and are obviously never cut out to do so again. And I think you know that.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:24 PM
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100%. I actually tip my hat to Hahn or Renteria on pulling the trigger this early. It's next man up with these fringed players. Need to give someone who wants to throw strikes consideration.

Good to see the leash is short for these AAAA guys.

Infante, Bummer, Engel are now on the clock.
Adam Engel is not a major league baseball player. He may be the worst offensive regular in baseball. That is not hyperbole. He is very good defensively.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:28 PM
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The minors are loaded with players who either will never make a major league roster or who have and are obviously never cut out to do so again. And I think you know that.
Right. So get rid of the stiffs. In the Sox case SPECIFICALLY they keep calling these clowns back up...over and over again. Almost like they thing something will have changed with these guys.

Hint: It never does.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:43 PM
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Adam Engel is not a major league baseball player. He may be the worst offensive regular in baseball. That is not hyperbole. He is very good defensively.
They got fooled by a good Spring. Cordell was more deserving of an extended look at CF. Engel maybe a 4th OF, and that's a huge if in my book.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:56 PM
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Adam Engel is not a major league baseball player. He may be the worst offensive regular in baseball. That is not hyperbole. He is very good defensively.
Engel reminds of Gordon Beckham at the plate, or at least the version of Beckham that would go through prolonged stretches of looking like he was swinging when the ball was already being caught by the catcher.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:44 PM
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Right. So get rid of the stiffs. In the Sox case SPECIFICALLY they keep calling these clowns back up...over and over again. Almost like they thing something will have changed with these guys.

Hint: It never does.
Or (and I think this is far more likely) the team currently has no one better to replace them and canít acquire anyone better to replace them.

Weíre talking about the low-leverage arms in a rebuilding teamís bullpen, AKA the salvaged junkyard car parts of the baseball world. Guys like these will be up and down all season, including Minaya.
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:14 PM
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Or (and I think this is far more likely) the team currently has no one better to replace them and canít acquire anyone better to replace them.

Weíre talking about the low-leverage arms in a rebuilding teamís bullpen, AKA the salvaged junkyard car parts of the baseball world. Guys like these will be up and down all season, including Minaya.
I can think of a few guys right now who either are better or have better potential right now. Ross is one of them. Vieira is another with potential.

Minaya has had his chance. Time to give someone else there's.
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:41 PM
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I can think of a few guys right now who either are better or have better potential right now. Ross is one of them. Vieira is another with potential.

Minaya has had his chance. Time to give someone else there's.
Vieira is in the same boat as Minaya with the free passes, and Ross couldnít even secure a major league deal this offseason. Vieira may develop into a legitimate major league reliever if he is given time in the minors to learn how to harness his killer stuff, so I would rather not rush him just because Minaya is bad.

There is a reason these guys were so easily obtainable in the first place.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:21 PM
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Vieira is in the same boat as Minaya with the free passes, and Ross couldnít even secure a major league deal this offseason. Vieira may develop into a legitimate major league reliever if he is given time in the minors to learn how to harness his killer stuff, so I would rather not rush him just because Minaya is bad.

There is a reason these guys were so easily obtainable in the first place.
Ross had a legit excuse, he was coming off injury but looked great in the spring.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:29 PM
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Engel reminds of Gordon Beckham at the plate, or at least the version of Beckham that would go through prolonged stretches of looking like he was swinging when the ball was already being caught by the catcher.
Engel has reverted to his previous setup where the bat is simply not in hitting position as the ball is being delivered to the plate. He was a new man in ST. And Beckham against high fast balls is a good comparison. I'd sit him down and let him look at film and repeat what he did in ST. He's got it in him. Cordell, even Tilson are waiting in the wings.
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:04 PM
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Adam Engel is not a major league baseball player. He may be the worst offensive regular in baseball. That is not hyperbole. He is very good defensively.
Give Leury some more playing time; bring Cordell up (not sure why he's in the minors instead of Saladino, who they don't really need right now anyway).
As for Ross, he gave up 2 hits and 2 BBs and didn't record an out in his first Charlotte appearance. Danish was terrible as usual as well.
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