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Old 08-28-2019, 09:25 PM
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Default Why was Herrera Re-Signed for Big Money?

If there's one thing that we can all agree on its that Kelvin Herrera has had one awful year this season with a 7.45 ERA. So why did the Sox grant him a 2 year $18 mil. extension? You simply can't throw that kind of money at a bad player and expect to be a contender next year. This is just simply more of the same kind of incompetent stuff that Hahn has made his trademark and which imperils any hope for improvement in 2020.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:47 PM
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If there's one thing that we can all agree on its that Kelvin Herrera has had one awful year this season with a 7.45 ERA. So why did the Sox grant him a 2 year $18 mil. extension? You simply can't throw that kind of money at a bad player and expect to be a contender next year. This is just simply more of the same kind of incompetent stuff that Hahn has made his trademark and which imperils any hope for improvement in 2020.
Well for one thing this is Herrera's first season with the Sox, so he was signed, not extended. The other is that Herrera's 7.45 ERA came after the signing, and hindsight is 20/20. He had a 2.44 ERA last year, and has had an ERA under 3 in 4 of the past 5 years leading up to this year.

Obviously it was a bad signing but there were so many things about your post that really didn't make sense that I had to focus on those.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:11 PM
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If there's one thing that we can all agree on its that Kelvin Herrera has had one awful year this season with a 7.45 ERA. So why did the Sox grant him a 2 year $18 mil. extension? You simply can't throw that kind of money at a bad player and expect to be a contender next year. This is just simply more of the same kind of incompetent stuff that Hahn has made his trademark and which imperils any hope for improvement in 2020.
He was a pretty effective bullpen guy before this year.

As noted above, he was not extended.
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Old 08-29-2019, 02:51 AM
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He was a pretty effective bullpen guy before this year.

As noted above, he was not extended.
Looks like we swung and missed on him, but I’m glad we at least took a hack at one. The time to start paying is nigh.
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Old 08-29-2019, 04:08 AM
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Looks like we swung and missed on him, but I’m glad we at least took a hack at one. The time to start paying is nigh.
Without knowing how he performs over those two future years how can anyone say the the Chicago White Sox swung and missed?

If the average Chicago White Sox fan believes the organization doesn't pay the fan perceived prevailing rate for free agents how does taking a hack at one by overpaying (fan perceived) a player make sense on any level?
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:22 AM
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Without knowing how he performs over those two future years how can anyone say the the Chicago White Sox swung and missed?

If the average Chicago White Sox fan believes the organization doesn't pay the fan perceived prevailing rate for free agents how does taking a hack at one by overpaying (fan perceived) a player make sense on any level?
It wouldn’t make sense, but the White Sox didn’t do that here. $8 million AAV is nowhere near top-dollar for a relief pitcher with a track record of multiple successful seasons as a closer. It’s pretty much market rate. Soria was getting paid that, and he was coming back from a lull in performance that made Herrera’s look small.

The velocity is there, but the command is awful. Hopefully he can get right with an offseason of rest and some tweaks to his mechanics. Let him pitch in games we are losing, just like last night, and see if he can make any progress at all. If he’s nothing but a junk-time reliever going forward, then so be it.
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:34 AM
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When I read the thread title, I thought the Sox had signed Herrera to an extension.
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:35 AM
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When I read the thread title, I thought the Sox had signed Herrera to an extension.
Yes I think OP is confused about something they read it's a confusing title.

Maybe they can explain and if not I'll end up moving it.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:22 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back next year for the 2nd year of his contract and has a good season. It's not uncommon for relievers with good track records have an awful season and then return to being a good pitcher the following season.
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:05 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back next year for the 2nd year of his contract and has a good season. It's not uncommon for relievers with good track records have an awful season and then return to being a good pitcher the following season.
I mean he just wasn't healthy for most of this season, if he's 100% next year I expect him to be a useful piece at the back of the bullpen.
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:07 AM
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I mean he just wasn't healthy for most of this season, if he's 100% next year I expect him to be a useful piece at the back of the bullpen.
Still got plenty of stuff. He was clocking 98 time before last.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:22 PM
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This thread reminded me that there was a contingent here that argued Herrera was elite and we should expect that production. heh.
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