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Old 04-27-2019, 08:27 AM
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Kyle Schwarber is a fire hydrant in the outfield as well, but he is still around.
Schwarber is a better fielder, has better mobility and understands the position much better than Eloy has shown to date.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:32 AM
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Schwarber is a better fielder, has better mobility and understands the position much better than Eloy has shown to date.
He also has a gun for an arm. For the all the flak the Cubs deserve , that kid has worked his ass off to be serviceable.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:33 AM
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Eloy is going to get himself hurt out there with his bad reads, positioning, and arm......oh wait..
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:40 AM
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He also has a gun for an arm. For the all the flak the Cubs deserve , that kid has worked his ass off to be serviceable.

Yup Id take him every day in the week and twice on sunday over jimenez in the field.
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:21 AM
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I think I would want to find a coach who had played in the majors in left field, preferably someone who is right-handed and is also Dominican or at least speaks excellent Spanish.
He doesn’t check all these boxes, but I wonder if Darin Jackson - who was an excellent defender and played some left field at the end of his career, and who is in the communication business - might be able to help Eloy improve his fielding.
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:23 AM
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If the kid doesn't have the footwork to break on balls hit to the outfield do you believe he's anywhere near having the needed footwork to handle 1B?

It hurts you less.

Bottom line is he's as good as he's going to be in the outfield, and that will only deteriorate over time. He's less of an obstacle at first, and will naturally transition to DH from there in a few years.
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:25 AM
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Schwarber is a better fielder, has better mobility and understands the position much better than Eloy has shown to date.
Yes, but he still should not be in a major league outfield.
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:26 AM
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Yup Id take him every day in the week and twice on sunday over jimenez in the field.
Being better than Eloy should not be the qualification.
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:48 AM
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It hurts you less.

Bottom line is he's as good as he's going to be in the outfield, and that will only deteriorate over time. He's less of an obstacle at first, and will naturally transition to DH from there in a few years.
I would like you to explain exactly how you came to this conclusion...
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:52 AM
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He doesn’t check all these boxes, but I wonder if Darin Jackson - who was an excellent defender and played some left field at the end of his career, and who is in the communication business - might be able to help Eloy improve his fielding.
Why DJ? That's not his job. Hire people who can actually teach and help develop talent.
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Old 04-27-2019, 11:41 AM
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It was just a matter of time and this wont be the last time. I am still baffled how he could have played over 400 games in the outfield in the minors and it appears as though he has never been out there before.
That's how I feel. He doesn't look just sub-par out there, he's downright brutal. It would be much more valuable to this team going forward if he could at least be a serviceable OF even if he did end up being primarily a DH.

And yes, at this rate, he's really going to hurt himself out there which will take his big bat out of the lineup entirely....assuming that this current injury is minor, that is.
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:27 PM
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Last I've heard is the MRI on his ankle came back negative but they still might sit him for a bit.

I still believe that any baseball player should be able to make basic plays at any position on the field but Eloy, so far, sometimes has trouble fielding routine fly balls. He needs defensive work and lots of it. Otherwise his lack of defense will negate his offensive value.
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:29 PM
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Why DJ? That's not his job. Hire people who can actually teach and help develop talent.
Why not, when Jimmy Piersall (a great outfielder in his day)was the color man on Sox TV games he would often help out the outfielders on the team.
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Last I've heard is the MRI on his ankle came back negative but they still might sit him for a bit.

I still believe that any baseball player should be able to make basic plays at any position on the field but Eloy, so far, sometimes has trouble fielding routine fly balls. He needs defensive work and lots of it. Otherwise his lack of defense will negate his offensive value.
I think he's trying to hard out there right now. He doesn't need to be Adam Engel or even Ryan Cordell. Just make the plays you can and stop throwing your body at walls. Hopefully the rest will come in time. They need to give him a good talking to about not trying to push it in the OF. Then give him lots of practice shagging flies.
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:36 PM
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It hurts you less.

Bottom line is he's as good as he's going to be in the outfield, and that will only deteriorate over time. He's less of an obstacle at first, and will naturally transition to DH from there in a few years.
Why even bother transitioning? Just make the move directly to DH. He’s not playing for a long-term contract anymore, so the idea that he needs to show positional versatility to get paid is now out of the equation.
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