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Old 05-02-2019, 04:14 PM
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The Indians lost last year because they didn't have an elite pen.

They DID, however, go into the year thinking they had one. They won a ****ty division, but ultimately met their demise quickly because of the pen.

Citing an outlier isn't contrary evidence. Look at World Series pens since the Royals won. Then tell me what wins championships.
So now it's Championships? With that, I can agree.

But to be fair, you said "Nobody" and it took only a look at last season to find a division champ with 91 wins and with a terrible bullpen.
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Old 05-02-2019, 04:16 PM
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Never said the Sox were above average or below average in blowing games late. Just pointing out what it is and the reality of things.

Sorry you and others don't like it. I'll continue to be doing it because it continues to impact the Sox just as games where they rally late impacts things (and I keep track of those as well...)
You are being deliberately obtuse, and you're far too knowledgeable for that kind of attitude.
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:36 AM
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So now it's Championships? With that, I can agree.

But to be fair, you said "Nobody" and it took only a look at last season to find a division champ with 91 wins and with a terrible bullpen.

Yeah when I said "nobody wins" I meant wins it all. You can certainly luck into divisions or wild card spots without having an elite pen if the right variety of things occur with other teams. But an elite pen has become a staple of championship squads, and it shouldn't be diminished when evaluating a squad's potential.
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