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Old 09-06-2017, 09:07 AM
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The Giants have now surpassed the Phillies for worst record. This is a team that won 3 WS titles this decade and came within one game of eliminating the Cubs last offseason.

As it stands now, Phillies are 0.5 games better than SF and the Sox are 3rd worse and 2 games ahead of the Giants.

Oakland has lost 8 straight and might just nab a top 3 pick at season's end.
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:20 AM
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If the Sox play the way they have played since the call ups, we will probably slip to a top 5 pick or top 6.
Not so fast. We're now only 1/2 game better than the Giants and only 1.5 better than the Phillies, who have the worst overall record. The Tigers and A's are tied for the 4th worst record and they're 5 games ahead of us.

Up next, we play those very same Giants this weekend. The battle for the #2 pick! Just like the Niners and the Bears!
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:06 AM
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Not so fast. We're now only 1/2 game better than the Giants and only 1.5 better than the Phillies, who have the worst overall record. The Tigers and A's are tied for the 4th worst record and they're 5 games ahead of us.

Up next, we play those very same Giants this weekend. The battle for the #2 pick! Just like the Niners and the Bears!
The series against the Giants is the most important series of the year ;).

Mostly because I don't want Seth Beer. Or to drop to the point of drafting him.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:02 AM
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Nick Hostetler Q&A about the draft:
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/258468...sox-questions/
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:48 PM
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Nick Hostetler Q&A Part 2:
http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...picId=27118146
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:15 AM
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Fan Graphs released their preseason top draft prospects for 2018, 2019 and 2020...

MLB Draft Rankings: 2018, 2019, and 2020

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To answer your first question: no, there isnít a slam-dunk, generational talent among the prospects ranked below.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:29 AM
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Fan Graphs released their preseason top draft prospects for 2018, 2019 and 2020...

MLB Draft Rankings: 2018, 2019, and 2020
Goes to show you how fluid the rankings are. I seem to recall that Brice Turang was the consensus top position player last year. Looks like he's fallen behind Madrigal and Gorman at least according to Fan Graphs.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:15 PM
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Goes to show you how fluid the rankings are. I seem to recall that Brice Turang was the consensus top position player last year. Looks like he's fallen behind Madrigal and Gorman at least according to Fan Graphs.
Very Fluid. Some 4th or 5th rounder could have a monster year and shoot up the boards. Heck, about this time last year Seth Beer was a consensus top 10 pick. Now there is a slight chance the Sox might have a shot at him in round 2. And if he comes out and has a monster year, he will once again be a top 10 pick. Baseball is probably the most fluid professional draft there is.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:18 AM
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Law's top 30 for the draft as of now

http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=8035
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:22 AM
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Yes, the preseason top draft prospects lists will change before the draft, but Iím encouraged that MLB.comís Top 10 has three LHPs, 2 shortstops, and a left-handed hitting third baseman. In other words, as of right now the top of the draft is deep in the areas where the Sox system is weakest; with the #4 pick we stand a decent chance of the ďbest player availableĒ being someone who will strengthen an organizational weakness.
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:50 AM
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Scouts also have no idea if there is a generational talent in the draft honestly, no one does. The single best player in Baseball saw like 24 guys or whatever go in front of him (Trout).
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Old 02-26-2018, 10:58 AM
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Scouts also have no idea if there is a generational talent in the draft honestly, no one does. The single best player in Baseball saw like 24 guys or whatever go in front of him (Trout).
True. While he was considered a stud pick going into the draft, nobody saw Michael Jordan being a generational player in the NBA.

In the first MLB draft, three Catchers were picked (one by the White Sox) before the Reds claimed some kid in the second round named Johnny Bench. You just cannot tell ahead of time who will be generational. Especially in Baseball where there is more developmental time than there is in the other sports.
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True. While he was considered a stud pick going into the draft, nobody saw Michael Jordan being a generational player in the NBA.

In the first MLB draft, three Catchers were picked (one by the White Sox) before the Reds claimed some kid in the second round named Johnny Bench. You just cannot tell ahead of time who will be generational. Especially in Baseball where there is more developmental time than there is in the other sports.
I think fans have a tendency to put players in buckets or assign a floor or ceiling based on where they were drafted. Once in a while, a player out-performs expectations and it seems like we're reluctant to re-calibrate our views because he was a late draft pick or 24 instead of 21. Not sure who in the Sox organization might fit this bill. Maybe Seby Zavala?

But if you look at the '17 All Stars though, I think most of them were drafted in the first few rounds or were international signings. Maybe this is a sign that analytics have improved and there are fewer busts.

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Old 02-26-2018, 12:00 PM
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But if you look at the '17 All Stars though, I think most of them were drafted in the first few rounds or were international signings. Maybe this is a sign that analytics have improved and there are fewer busts.
The expected value of early round picks has increased steadily since the early days of the draft due to advanced scouting and other factors. With the rules that leveled out the playing field in 2013, teams are able to pick the best player available and no longer worry about "signability" which was complete BS.
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Old 03-11-2018, 10:56 AM
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Casey Mize has been climbing the draft boards and certainly helped himself by throwing a no hitter https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
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