A.J. & Jake named 2012 GG Finalists

[#1swisher]

EDIT: Gold Glove Awards on ESPN2 8:30 PM Tuesday

2012 Gold Glove Award winners will be announced Tuesday. Complete list of finalists: CSNChicago


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Peavy and Pierzynski finalists at their respective positions for 2012 Rawlings Gold Gloves to be announced Tuesday. No Beckham or Ramirez

[Konerko05]

Originally Posted by #1swisher

Peavy and Pierzynski finalists at their respective positions for 2012 Rawlings Gold Gloves to be announced Tuesday. No Beckham or Ramirez

That makes sense...

[DumpJerry]

Originally Posted by Konerko05

That makes sense...

No it doesn't. Alexei and Gordon deserve the consideration.

[Konerko05]

Originally Posted by DumpJerry

No it doesn't. Alexei and Gordon deserve the consideration.

I know.

[LoveYourSuit]

AJ as GG candidate is like saying Paulie can steal 50 bases.


What a joke.

He's was not even the best defensive catcher on the team.

[Brian26]

Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit

AJ as GG candidate is like saying Paulie can steal 50 bases.


What a joke.

He's was not even the best defensive catcher on the team.

Everyone knows the gold glove winner is the best offensive player at his position. This dates back to the Eric Chavez early 2000s era, with a dose of Derek Jeter.

[ZombieRob]

If that's the case A.J would barely crack the top 5. Weiters, Avila Santana Saltallamachia Mauer Napoli

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by ZombieRob

If that's the case A.J would barely crack the top 5. Weiters, Avila Santana Saltallamachia Mauer Napoli

Only Mauer had a higher OPS among regulars at C in the AL:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting.../OPS/minpa/400

[ZombieRob]

Originally Posted by DSpivack

Only Mauer had a higher OPS among regulars at C in the AL:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting.../OPS/minpa/400

All are better catchers then A.J and have higher star power as Brian said. Gold Glove is usually the sexy pick. To be honest I would take any one of those 5 catchers over A.J right now.

[Brian26]

Originally Posted by ZombieRob

If that's the case A.J would barely crack the top 5. Weiters, Avila Santana Saltallamachia Mauer Napoli

AJ had a higher average and more homers than Napoli, Avila, Salty, Wieters and Santana. Mauer beat him on average but had 17 less homers. Did you bother to even try to check that statement before posting?

[ZombieRob]

Originally Posted by Brian26

AJ had a higher average and more homers than Napoli, Avila, Salty, Wieters and Santana. Mauer beat him on average but had 17 less homers. Did you bother to even try to check that statement before posting?

Don't back track. Sure A.J was there with them. But lacks the star power those others have and is not even close to being as good an all around catcher as them. Defensive stats don't tell the whole story of a catcher. I know the A.J apologists will get upset, but oh well they'll get over it.

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by ZombieRob

Don't back track. Sure A.J was there with them. But lacks the star power those others have and is not even close to being as good an all around catcher as them. Defensive stats don't tell the whole story of a catcher. I know the A.J apologists will get upset, but oh well they'll get over it.

Brian said AJ was one of the best offensive players at his position this year in the AL. Only Mauer was better. That doesn't mean I think he (AJ, not Brian) deserves the GG, I don't. But, as said, it's a good reason why he was named a finalist.

[ZombieRob]

Originally Posted by DSpivack

Brian said AJ was one of the best offensive players at his position this year in the AL. Only Mauer was better. That doesn't mean I think he (AJ, not Brian) deserves the GG, I don't. But, as said, it's a good reason why he was named a finalist.

And I added on to what he said by simply stating there are better catchers than A.J in that list. Which there is. Chavez the last year he won it didn't deserve it Crede did. But Chavez is the sexy pick. Cano is the Sexy pick at 2nd Base even though IMO he's not the best defensive 2nd baseman this year. Russell Martin and or Matt Weiters will most likely get it due to name recognition and past history. Let's face it the Sox aren't or never will be a marquee team. For some reason the national media considers the Sox lower then the Pirates and Rockies. That is what really is going to hurt his chances IMO.

[DSpivack]

Originally Posted by ZombieRob

And I added on to what he said by simply stating there are better catchers than A.J in that list. Which there is. Chavez the last year he won it didn't deserve it Crede did. But Chavez is the sexy pick. Cano is the Sexy pick at 2nd Base even though IMO he's not the best defensive 2nd baseman this year. Russell Martin and or Matt Weiters will most likely get it due to name recognition and past history. Let's face it the Sox aren't or never will be a marquee team. For some reason the national media considers the Sox lower then the Pirates and Rockies. That is what really is going to hurt his chances IMO.

I don't know about never. They were pretty popular nationally in the early 90s, thanks to the Big Hurt.

[ZombieRob]

Originally Posted by DSpivack

I don't know about never. They were pretty popular nationally in the early 90s, thanks to the Big Hurt.

I don't remember them ever being nationally revered in the 90's. I know Frank was highly regarded but the team itself even during the pennant chases no one outside Chicago seem to care. Part of that problem is in part the Sox seem to get buried by our own media. But you may be right though, I just don't remember.