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He'll have to rack up another 118 wins to get in. Somehow I don't see it happening.
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It's a longshot that he will even pitch 200 innings for 3 more seasons but it's possible with the way he throws and 16 consecutive seasons of 200 innings especially in this era will not be overlooked. I think the 2005 championship will play a part in some voters minds. Plus theres not too many WS teams that have no Hall of Fame or future Hall of Famers and as forgotten as the 2005 Whitesox are to alot of people in the country they are still a team thats going to be remembered for bringing Chicago it's first WS since 1917. ........Frank Thomas wasn't really a part of that team due to postseason. I know he played a part in the regular season though. The Florida Marlins might be the only team that I can think of that won't have any Hall of Famers. The 2005 Whitesox could be another one but I find it hard to believe that nobody on that team will make it. Mark Buehrle is probably the best player to have any chance of making it. |
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I would say he needs 250 to be a automatic.
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He isn't getting in the HOF. Please stop.
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![]() With the Sox demise this year, probably the one baseball item I'm most interested in is seeing whether Buehrle once again wins 10+ games and pitches over 200 innings. He should easily get to 10 wins, needing only 2 more wins, but he will need to pitch about 50 more innings in ~8 starts. |
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Mark might get in if he gets to 200 wins +, the perfect game and the other no hitter will help. With pitchers starting less games every year, 200 wins might be the new 300. In fact I don't know if we will ever see another 300 game winner in MLB. With pitchers starting every 5 games it's tough to get to 300 wins. Another reason is pitchers are pulled after 100 pitches, so say in a tie game where they might have a chance to win, most of the time they are taken out of the game because of pitch count.
If any White sox pitcher belongs in the HOF, its Billy Pierce. All this WAR stuff and other stats except for W-L and ERA have to take a back seat to how a player performed in his era. Pierce was one of the top pitchers in the 50s, he started 2 All-Star games and made 7 All Star teams. He won 20 games twice. in my mind only Warren Spahn and Robin Roberts were better in that era. I don't think Whitey Ford was better, put Pierce on the Yankees and Ford on the White Sox and Billy is in the HOF as we speak.
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Im with you all the way on this. I guess Buehrle has a chance if he pitches many more years, gets a lot more wins, sniffs a couple cy youngs and makes more all star teams. Pierce deserves it now, yesterday and did 40 years ago. Billy is such a nice guy, it would be so great if he could get in while he is still with us so he could enjoy it. |
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The only chance Buehrle has to get into the Hall of Fame is if he buys a ticket.
To say the only reason Early Wynn got into the HOF because he won 300 games is like saying the only reason Neil Armstrong was an astronaut is because he walked on the moon. |
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It has amazed me as to who has been elected to the MLB HOF in my lifetime. I NEVER thought Walter O'Malley, Bill Veeck and Ron Santo would be inducted into the HOF. It's almost as if these baseball historians have reinvented history. I can see how Veeck got inducted, he was liked by the media. That wasn't the case with O'Malley and Santo. Billy Pierce was a better pitcher than Mark Buehrle and he's not in the HOF. Unless Buehrle has a tremendous finish to his career, I can't see him being inducted.
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I love Buehrle as much as every other Sox fan on this board but there's no way he's a HOF'er. He's a compiler, give him credit, he's stayed healthy, been a good teammate and been constinent but that doesn't get you in the HOF. In my opinion, David Cone had a better career than Mark including a Cy Young award and a perfect game and even with the east coast media behind him he was dropped from the ballot after one year. Another thing to consider is with the steroid guys backing up, ballots are going to be split and the guys who vote for the steroid guys are not going to have room on their ballots for the fringe candidates.
Also, I don't think Mussina gets in "easily". Maybe eventually it's gonna take a while. |
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Agreed.
I think Mark should absolutely be a part of the White Sox Hall of Fame (if such a thing exists). Anyone who thinks he's got a shot at the MLB HOF is smoking something. |
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Mark's a great guy and pitcher but not HOF worthy. He's one ex-player that could possibly make a good addition to our coaching staff.
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I agree. He and Konerko are similar in that regard.
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I love the guy but unless Mark puts together a bunch of all star seasons in his twilight years, he is not getting in. Buehrle's post career honor will likely be having his #56 retired by the White Sox. If he retired today, he has had a fine career but I don't see him going to the Hall.
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