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Old 05-30-2018, 04:32 PM
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...and Dunning with a great outing in that game:
7.0 IP, 1 R, 5 H, 0 BB, 9 K
Things are lining up well with this pitching staff. He will be a great arn to have up here when he is ready.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:09 PM
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You know, there is a running joke that this club doesn't scout well but seeing Collins, Gonzalez, Zavala, and some of the pitchers in A ball makes me wonder if we have made too much of the negative criticism.
I think scouting has been less of an issue to the incompetence of player development.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:58 PM
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You know, there is a running joke that this club doesn't scout well but seeing Collins, Gonzalez, Zavala, and some of the pitchers in A ball makes me wonder if we have made too much of the negative criticism.

Alec Hansen, too. Also, though not as high of a ceiling, I'm encouraged to see players like Jordan Stephens and Ian Hamilton looking good so far.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:19 PM
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You know, there is a running joke that this club doesn't scout well but seeing Collins, Gonzalez, Zavala, and some of the pitchers in A ball makes me wonder if we have made too much of the negative criticism.
We might be starting to see the positive impact of Hostetler and Getz.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:23 PM
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Having a catcher be a capable bat takes such a load off of your offense.

Perspective? Lets see what we have performance wise over a greater period of time.
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:57 PM
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I didn't believe this at first, but then I looked. He's not at .500, but it's still impressive at .452. But what really impresses me:

K%: 24.4 (same as last year!)
BB%: 26.9 (up 2.5% from last year!)

The eye on this kid is unreal.
I check the box scores every night and I honestly can't remember the last time he didn't draw a walk in a game. It's nuts. I think he can be a Nick Johnson type offensively in the bigs. And if he sticks at catcher, that's a monster of a player.
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Old 05-31-2018, 08:10 AM
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I check the box scores every night and I honestly can't remember the last time he didn't draw a walk in a game. It's nuts. I think he can be a Nick Johnson type offensively in the bigs. And if he sticks at catcher, that's a monster of a player.
Let’s hope he doesn’t get hurt every other week like Johnson did throughout his career.
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Old 05-31-2018, 10:56 AM
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Kannapolis starter Kade McClure will need knee surgery and will miss the rest of the season:
http://www.news-herald.com/sports/20...g-knee-surgery
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Old 05-31-2018, 08:38 PM
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Tonight so far for Birmingham, 3-run HR for Jiminez. Collins 3 plate appearances and 3 BB. He's ridiculous.

And Adams pitched his best game of the year. 8 IP, 2H, 6K, 0BB, 90 pitches.

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Old 06-01-2018, 07:43 AM
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Here are Collins final numbers for May: .322/.508/.540

For an entire month, he got on base more than he got out! That's unreal.

He has 52 walks so far this year, 2nd place in the Southern League has 31. I'm curious to see if his "walk tool" translates as he gets to levels where pitchers have better control.
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Old 06-01-2018, 08:05 AM
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My $0.02-

Nice starts across the affiliates yesterday- Stephens with his 4th solid start at AAA, Adams with his best start of 2018, Flores at Winston Salem (might be our best LH starting pitcher prospect right now).

I think the cooling off of Basabe and Booker is causing a problem- ideally these guys would be ready to go to AA to make room for Robert and Gonzalez from Kanny. Booker might be pushed up regardless when Robert is ready.

Is it time to move Collins to AAA- so he can catch every day? (or Zavala?)

Keeping Jimenez at AA is not credible- hope he's moved to AAA soon- setting the stage for July call up.

I'm willing to be patient with Rutherford- he was 19 yo when he graduated H.S.- so this is the equivalent of his college senior year...so I think he's doing pretty well at A+, if he's at AA next season- that's a pretty good pace for development.
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Old 06-01-2018, 08:20 AM
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My $0.02-

Nice starts across the affiliates yesterday- Stephens with his 4th solid start at AAA, Adams with his best start of 2018, Flores at Winston Salem (might be our best LH starting pitcher prospect right now).

I think the cooling off of Basabe and Booker is causing a problem- ideally these guys would be ready to go to AA to make room for Robert and Gonzalez from Kanny. Booker might be pushed up regardless when Robert is ready.

Is it time to move Collins to AAA- so he can catch every day? (or Zavala?)

Keeping Jimenez at AA is not credible- hope he's moved to AAA soon- setting the stage for July call up.

I'm willing to be patient with Rutherford- he was 19 yo when he graduated H.S.- so this is the equivalent of his college senior year...so I think he's doing pretty well at A+, if he's at AA next season- that's a pretty good pace for development.

I think we'll see a lot of movement of players after the draft, and the draftees sign. Depending on who we draft, we might have a guy join Winston-Salem, several more go to Kannapolis, and the rest go to Great Falls. There are players in extended spring training who will go to various affiliates, as well.


I agree with you on the outfield situation. Let Rutherford do a full season of A+. Robert and Gonzalez can join him in the Winston-Salem OF. Booker and Basabe, then, can go to Birmingham, as Eloy (and either Fisher or Polo) go to Charlotte.


Miker Adolfo is an interesting case. Will he get shut down for elbow surgery? Or does he continue DH-ing? If he gets shut down, that affects the outfield logjam, because it opens up the DH spot at Winston-Salem that he alone has been occupying. If he is allowed to continue playing, his affiliate placement probably depends more on what the Sox decide to do with Collins and Zavala, who have been sharing catching and DH duties at Birmingham.
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Old 06-01-2018, 08:29 AM
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I think we'll see a lot of movement of players after the draft, and the draftees sign. Depending on who we draft, we might have a guy join Winston-Salem, several more go to Kannapolis, and the rest go to Great Falls. There are players in extended spring training who will go to various affiliates, as well.


I agree with you on the outfield situation. Let Rutherford do a full season of A+. Robert and Gonzalez can join him in the Winston-Salem OF. Booker and Basabe, then, can go to Birmingham, as Eloy (and either Fisher or Polo) go to Charlotte.


Miker Adolfo is an interesting case. Will he get shut down for elbow surgery? Or does he continue DH-ing? If he gets shut down, that affects the outfield logjam, because it opens up the DH spot at Winston-Salem that he alone has been occupying. If he is allowed to continue playing, his affiliate placement probably depends more on what the Sox decide to do with Collins and Zavala, who have been sharing catching and DH duties at Birmingham.
I think Adolfo gets shut down for surgery based on whatever timing is required for him to be 100% healthy for spring training.
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Old 06-01-2018, 11:38 AM
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I think scouting has been less of an issue to the incompetence of player development.

I think the White Sox player development "issue" is a myth. The truth is that the White Sox didn't draft position players in the first round for years. You aren't going to get a high percentage of quality players outside of the first and second rounds. That coupled with the owner refusing to not spend outside of MLB's "suggested" guidelines and the debacle in Latin America killed the farm system.


You can't develop players to be major league players if they don't have any talent to begin with.
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:10 PM
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My $0.02-

Nice starts across the affiliates yesterday- Stephens with his 4th solid start at AAA, Adams with his best start of 2018, Flores at Winston Salem (might be our best LH starting pitcher prospect right now).

I think the cooling off of Basabe and Booker is causing a problem- ideally these guys would be ready to go to AA to make room for Robert and Gonzalez from Kanny. Booker might be pushed up regardless when Robert is ready.

Is it time to move Collins to AAA- so he can catch every day? (or Zavala?)

Keeping Jimenez at AA is not credible- hope he's moved to AAA soon- setting the stage for July call up.

I'm willing to be patient with Rutherford- he was 19 yo when he graduated H.S.- so this is the equivalent of his college senior year...so I think he's doing pretty well at A+, if he's at AA next season- that's a pretty good pace for development.
Re: Rutherford - perhaps you meant to say this would be the equivalent of his Sophomore year in college? Was 2016 draftee out of high school.
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