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Old 12-05-2019, 05:41 PM
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https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status...389186048?s=19

Any thoughts on Yo****omo Tsutsugo? He's 28 and apparently he can mash (in Japan). https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=tsutsu000yos

I don't know anything else about him though.

Edit: LOL at that censorship in the name

Hahaha...if we sign him, they're going to have to change the filter.


He can play OF and 1B. On base and power guy, though he probably won't be a premier power guy over here. We'd probably use him as a DH option and a backup in the OF and at 1B when Grandal DH's. He's more of a LF, but can play right or even 3rd base in a pinch.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:48 PM
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YUCK to Moncada moving back to 2nd base- he's much more valuable at 3rd base- and will hold up better there over time.
Moncadaís defense at 2B is adequate enough to justify playing his .915 OPS there and adding Rendonís 1.010 OPS to the mix.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:56 PM
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No, it's not.
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:36 PM
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Notably, the SP list for next offseason
No aces in that group. Barely any #2s in that group. All the more reason to push for Strasburg.
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:48 PM
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Sports Mockery with a write up that adequately elaborates what a lot of us are feeling.


Disappointed that we missed out on Wheeler. Not really mad about it. But mad about the fact that we're not in on Cole or Strasburg. Instead of trying at the top tier with our targets, we're looking at third tier free agent starters. Which is not how you supplement a rebuild.


https://sportsmockery.com/2019/12/wh...i2QNHoCMprxg9c
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:33 PM
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No, it's not.
Sure it is.

Letís say his defense at 2B is the same -5 runs that it was in 2018. He was +30 runs with the bat last year, which would have led all major league 2B had Moncada played that position instead of 3B. Even subtracting those 5 runs and dropping him to 25 runs, that still would have led all major league 2B.

And then you get to add ANTHONY RENDON! Go ahead and compare Rendonís numbers to Yolmerís recently departed numbers. None of those OF options would come close to changing the dynamic of this lineup as much as Rendon would.

If Jose Abreuís -4 runs is playable at 1B, then Yoan Moncadaís -5 runs is playable at 2B, considering that Moncadaís bat is obscenely more valuable at 2B than Abreuís is at 1B.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:05 PM
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The likelihood of getting Gerrit Cole has dropped significantly. The Yankees will probably beat any offer the White Sox will make. This is probably going to get close to $300M. I hope I'm wrong here.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...57426027663366
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:49 PM
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The likelihood of getting Gerrit Cole has dropped significantly. The Yankees will probably beat any offer the White Sox will make. This is probably going to get close to $300M. I hope I'm wrong here.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...57426027663366

Then work on Strasburg.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:20 PM
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The likelihood of getting Gerrit Cole has dropped significantly. The Yankees will probably beat any offer the White Sox will make. This is probably going to get close to $300M. I hope I'm wrong here.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...57426027663366
Yankees are trying to scare other teams away from pursuing Cole. I'm sure they're very serious about going after him, but they have payroll limits just like every other team. They'll have to go into the luxury tax to add a $30M+ AAV, so every additional dollar of salary past that point costs more to them than it does to other teams.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:21 PM
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Then work on Strasburg.
This.

Donít even waste time on the Cole craziness. Do everything possible to try and get Strasburg before Cole signs, so the spurned suitors for Cole canít circle back to Strasburg.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:22 PM
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Then work on Strasburg.
The problem with both Cole and Strasburg is that, as Boras clients, they very well could stretch this out until February. Do the Sox go all in on those guys with the risk of getting left at the alter again, and miss out on some lesser options that would still help the team?
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:38 PM
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The problem with both Cole and Strasburg is that, as Boras clients, they very well could stretch this out until February. Do the Sox go all in on those guys with the risk of getting left at the alter again, and miss out on some lesser options that would still help the team?

Go ahead and sign the lesser option too.


But it should be noted that this offseason is moving a LOT faster than most, and both Cole and Strasburg had said they don't want prolonged free agent experiences. Most people think they'll sign at the Winter Meetings.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:21 PM
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I would look at Tehran. He's never had a bad year (outside his first year which consisted of a couple of starts). He's been down a few innings lately but still hits 175. He's a 4; that's okay, give me 2 4s and let's play ball. (real 4s; not a Nova). We'll roll with a 1, two 4s and Cease and Lopez.
Then find a stud reliever.

And just for the record, Giolito's a 1. They could use 2 of them. But Cease may be close this year - probably a 2 if all goes well.
I'm surprised on one's called Hahn trying to shake Giolito loose- maybe they have.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:30 PM
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I would look at Tehran. He's never had a bad year (outside his first year which consisted of a couple of starts). He's been down a few innings lately but still hits 175. He's a 4; that's okay, give me 2 4s and let's play ball. (real 4s; not a Nova). We'll roll with a 1, two 4s and Cease and Lopez.
Then find a stud reliever.

And just for the record, Giolito's a 1. They could use 2 of them. But Cease may be close this year - probably a 2 if all goes well.
I'm surprised on one's called Hahn trying to shake Giolito loose- maybe they have.
Teheranís control has somehow gotten worse as heís lost his FB. I donít bet on him getting away with it in the AL. Iíd rather lob whatever $ we spend on him on Bum or the big two on overpays.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:34 PM
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Teheranís control has somehow gotten worse as heís lost his FB. I donít bet on him getting away with it in the AL. Iíd rather lob whatever $ we spend on him on Bum or the big two on overpays.
He definitely walks too many.
Bum had horrendous road splits last year; and his home park is a definitive pitcher's park. And he's another one who has lost a lot on his fastball.
There just aren't a lot of good options.

If the Sox can't beat the Phillies and Padres, they aren't beating the Yankees, nationals and Angels.
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