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Old 09-23-2018, 10:39 AM
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Default Moncada Closing Strong

Nice article in the Trib confirms my own eye test. Yoan is finishing the season strong.

His OPS over last 30 days is pushing .800 with a BA of .310 and only 30 K. If he had just posted a .650 OPS in May and June he’d be right where he was last year or better.

Room for some cautious optimism he’s going to be fine.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...922-story.html
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Old 09-23-2018, 01:28 PM
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Nice article in the Trib confirms my own eye test. Yoan is finishing the season strong.

His OPS over last 30 days is pushing .800 with a BA of .310 and only 30 K. If he had just posted a .650 OPS in May and June he’d be right where he was last year or better.

Room for some cautious optimism he’s going to be fine.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...922-story.html
He closed strong last year too. So did Giolito and Lopez.
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Old 09-23-2018, 07:10 PM
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Nope - he did the same **** last year, playing well, when the games were meaningless.

He's nearing 800 career AB, and his numbers are one tall glass of: not very good; he will regress to the mean.
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:13 PM
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Nope - he did the same **** last year, playing well, when the games were meaningless.

He's nearing 800 career AB, and his numbers are one tall glass of: not very good; he will regress to the mean.
The games were meaningless in May.
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:52 PM
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Moncada has all the tools. He just has to sharpen his approach which I think he'll do.
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The games were meaningless in May.
Yea but he wasn’t facing teams’ September call ups in May.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:38 PM
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Yea but he wasn’t facing teams’ September call ups in May.
Most of the starting pitchers he has faced this month are regulars.
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Old 09-24-2018, 04:05 AM
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Games are never meaningless. That said, Moncada closing out strong is a good sign.


I can't wait for ST in 2019.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:15 AM
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One would have to stand on one's head to spin Moncada's season as anything but hugely disappointing.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:54 AM
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23 yo kid competing his 1st full season in the bigs- the real issue is we're seeing about a year of his development that should have taken place in AA/AAA- very raw coming into the majors.

He's looked overwhelmed at times on both sides of the ball- but I still like his potential- and expect him to take it to the next level in 2019.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:09 AM
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23 yo kid competing his 1st full season in the bigs- the real issue is we're seeing about a year of his development that should have taken place in AA/AAA- very raw coming into the majors.

He's looked overwhelmed at times on both sides of the ball- but I still like his potential- and expect him to take it to the next level in 2019.
Agreed. He had less than a full season COMBINED at AA (Boston org.) and AAA (Chicago/Charlotte). He was called up extremely early by Boston because they had a gaping hole in their infield, and they put a position change in top of him during the heat of a pennant race. He then had half a season in AAA before being promoted essentially to take Todd Frazier’s spot on the roster. Then, in his first full MLB season, he’s expected to lead off against RHP while dropping down to different spots in the order against LHP, in a lineup filled with numerous AAAA, one-dimensional, likewise young and learning, and/or oft-injured hitters.

Moreover, switch hitters take longer to develop as hitters because they get fewer plate appearances on each side, and yet it’s two different swings to have to adjust and refine.

I’m so sick and tired of the sports media premature ejaculating muppets insisting based on limited sample size that the likes of Moncada - and Mitch Trubisky, for that matter - are finished products and therefore busts.
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:12 AM
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23 yo kid competing his 1st full season in the bigs- the real issue is we're seeing about a year of his development that should have taken place in AA/AAA- very raw coming into the majors.

He's looked overwhelmed at times on both sides of the ball- but I still like his potential- and expect him to take it to the next level in 2019.

Well said. I'm not sure why people are so ready to write him off as a bust. It was extremely frustrating to watch his struggles this year, but it's not unusual for a good player to struggle at first in the majors before things finally click.

Am I saying that it's a sure thing that he'll become an all-star player? No. But I can still see it happening.
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One would have to stand on one's head to spin Moncada's season as anything but hugely disappointing.
I'd more say I'm frustrated than disappointed. Which is why I'm encouraged by his progress late in the season. His new swing and approach are starting to pay dividends. No reason a kid with his amount of bat speed and raw athleticism can't consistently make contact with the baseball and hit it hard when he does.

His defense has improved a lot since the first few months. He's still making mistakes but a lot less of them so I'm not concerned there at all. His strength and calmness when he is the pivot on a double-play alone makes me think he's got a bright future at 2B.
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Well said. I'm not sure why people are so ready to write him off as a bust.

Because some people are inherently negative and refuse to accept the reality of the situation, or just don't understand that DOB is a very important "stat" when evaluating player performance.


When a 22/23 year old in his first year in the majors is derailed by injuries at the beginning of the season, you can't just expect him to come back like a 5 year veteran would. Patience is required for true baseball growth, unfortunately all fan bases are loaded with meatballs who expect kids to come out of the minors and be immediate all stars. Juan Soto is the exception, not the rule.
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This was a development year for Yo Yo. But for the Red Sox using up some of his options, he would have been in Charlotte and some people here would have been pining for him and Eloy. If the Sox sent him to Charlotte for development and he somehow did not make the 25 man roster next year, he would be available for another team to grab him off waivers. Right now, it is my understanding, the Sox have preserved his final option in case he needs a trip to Charlotte next year.

Same thing applies to Giolito except it was the Nats and not the BoSox who used up some of his options.
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