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Old 10-09-2019, 03:33 PM
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Information on contracts and payroll obligations:



Currently, we have roughly $24 million in guarantees next year (obviously this is without arbitration and free agents like Jose Abreu). https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-...early/payroll/



MLBTR just did their annual arbitration projection (which they've been pretty close on in previous years). https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ries-2020.html


They assume another $33 million from our arbitration eligible players. Which would put us at around $57 million in commitments. Meaning we'd need to spend another $30M+ in free agents just to reach last year's payroll.
And should have no problem spending $80M on FA in this and coming seasons and still have room to negotiate with our people when that day comes if they can keep the contract lengths to 5 years and/or front load them significantly.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:47 PM
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And should have no problem spending $80M on FA in this and coming seasons and still have room to negotiate with our people when that day comes if they can keep the contract lengths to 5 years and/or front load them significantly.



They should, yes. Will they? That's the real concern.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:20 AM
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Information on contracts and payroll obligations:



Currently, we have roughly $24 million in guarantees next year (obviously this is without arbitration and free agents like Jose Abreu). https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-...early/payroll/



MLBTR just did their annual arbitration projection (which they've been pretty close on in previous years). https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ries-2020.html


They assume another $33 million from our arbitration eligible players. Which would put us at around $57 million in commitments. Meaning we'd need to spend another $30M+ in free agents just to reach last year's payroll.
If they are right about Yolmer getting $6.2, then Yolmer probably won't be in a Sox uniform next season. At least I hope not at that price.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:26 AM
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If they are right about Yolmer getting $6.2, then Yolmer probably won't be in a Sox uniform next season. At least I hope not at that price.
Wouldn't be shocked for them to offer him a multi-year deal at a lower base, but it won't bother me if he's just gone. He'll be playing somewhere next year as a spot starter/bench player, but he has to know he won't be a starter with the Sox much longer.
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:54 PM
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Article today about the Sox potentially getting in on a cheap deal for Tsutsugo from Japan. In that league he's got solid OBP and SLG stats, and if he comes cheap (article says likely a minor league deal), could be another nice option to throw into the mix in the event that Sox are unable to get a more established DH bat. If they can add one bat in RF/DH and then at least a replacement level guy or a good OBP/decent hit guy, the O should be perfectly fine. If Tsutsugo is a .270/.350/.500 type at DH and you split RF between Engel/Leury and put big $$$ into the rotation, that would be fine by me.

(Prefer Martinez/Ozuna and top of rotation guy, but I far far prioritize the SP.)
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:10 PM
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Frank Menechino was officially named the new Sox hitting coach.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:11 PM
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Article today about the Sox potentially getting in on a cheap deal for Tsutsugo from Japan. In that league he's got solid OBP and SLG stats, and if he comes cheap (article says likely a minor league deal), could be another nice option to throw into the mix in the event that Sox are unable to get a more established DH bat. If they can add one bat in RF/DH and then at least a replacement level guy or a good OBP/decent hit guy, the O should be perfectly fine. If Tsutsugo is a .270/.350/.500 type at DH and you split RF between Engel/Leury and put big $$$ into the rotation, that would be fine by me.

(Prefer Martinez/Ozuna and top of rotation guy, but I far far prioritize the SP.)
Isn't this one of those "buy them out" things like Robert? Some articles I read said the fee to bid might go over $25M which would of course require a fine for exceeding their budget for foreign player signings (again, like Robert). Better be damned sure this guy is the real deal for that much money.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:19 PM
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Frank Menechino was officially named the new Sox hitting coach.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ing-coach.html

Total Sox move here. Rather than bringing in outside expertise and best practices from a top organization like Houston, promote somebody from within the organization. I'm sure the other people interviewed for the role were D'Angelo Jimenez and Herbert Perry.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:23 PM
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Total Sox move here. Rather than bringing in outside expertise and best practices from a top organization like Houston, promote somebody from within the organization. I'm sure the other people interviewed for the role were D'Angelo Jimenez and Herbert Perry.
Ha! You forgot Danny Richar. Menechino has only been part of the Sox organization for one year. Previously with the Marlins.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:26 PM
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Total Sox move here. Rather than bringing in outside expertise and best practices from a top organization like Houston, promote somebody from within the organization. I'm sure the other people interviewed for the role were D'Angelo Jimenez and Herbert Perry.
I agree in general about the Sox having blinders to outsiders, but Menechino had some strong recommendations from players he helped in Charlotte. I liked him as an under-the-radar prospect, once upon a time, because he had an OBP over .400 everywhere he went in the minors. Then he managed a career .358 in the majors. I'm willing to give him a chance to teach that...

Also, per mlbtraderumors, "Menechino served as the Marlins’ assistant hitting coach from 2014-16 before being promoted to their lead hitting coach in 2017-18. He also spent five years as a hitting coach in the Yankees’ farm system before being added to the Marlins’ big league staff."
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:28 PM
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Ha! You forgot Danny Richar. Menechino has only been part of the Sox organization for one year.
Menechino was drafted by the Sox and spent pretty much his whole minor league career in the Sox system.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:46 PM
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Menechino was drafted by the Sox and spent pretty much his whole minor league career in the Sox system.
I was referring to his coaching career; but you are correct about the Sox drafting him in 1993 and employing him for the first four years of his minor league playing career. He hasn't been a member of the White Sox organization since 1997!
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:51 PM
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ing-coach.html

Total Sox move here. Rather than bringing in outside expertise and best practices from a top organization like Houston, promote somebody from within the organization. I'm sure the other people interviewed for the role were D'Angelo Jimenez and Herbert Perry.
Excellent choice. Someone who knows the kids who are coming up next year. An outsider would need name tags.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:59 PM
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:08 PM
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Isn't this one of those "buy them out" things like Robert? Some articles I read said the fee to bid might go over $25M which would of course require a fine for exceeding their budget for foreign player signings (again, like Robert). Better be damned sure this guy is the real deal for that much money.
This was the article I read (probably should have linked it in my original post): https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/wh...ason-hot-stove

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My guess is he’ll agree to a minor league contract, he’ll get a camp invite and that he’ll win a major league job out of camp because he’s just a really useful guy to have. But nobody’s going to be throwing guaranteed money at him. If they do, I would be surprised.”

Based on that evaluation, Tsutsugo doesn’t sound like he’d slide into the middle of the White Sox lineup and mash a ton of homers, providing the pop the team needs to help vault itself out of rebuilding mode and into playoff contention. At the same time, a projection of a minor league deal makes him sound like an intriguing option considering the potentially low cost. A minor league contract would make for a much smaller release fee than the ones you might typically associate with the biggest names to come out of Japan.
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