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Old 06-20-2019, 12:49 PM
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Default Tampa Bay Rays to Montreal?

Per ESPN, the Rays have received MLB's permission to explore being a two-city team! They would start the season in Tampa and wind up finishing the season in Montreal. I suspect that once the lease on their stadium in Tampa runs out in 2027, they would wind up moving to Montreal permanently?
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:04 PM
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This was inevitable. The Rays have had more than enough time to make their mark in St. Pete, and it simply hasn't worked out. I really do think they'll be the new Expos when all is said and done. Once that happens, my guess is they'll claim all Expos history from the Nationals, much like the current Hornets reclaimed theirs from the Pelicans.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:14 PM
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Sooner the better.

This will create a nice rivalry for Toronto-Montreal.

And a great new location for a baseball road trip.

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Old 06-20-2019, 01:19 PM
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This was inevitable. The Rays have had more than enough time to make their mark in St. Pete, and it simply hasn't worked out. I really do think they'll be the new Expos when all is said and done. Once that happens, my guess is they'll claim all Expos history from the Nationals, much like the current Hornets reclaimed theirs from the Pelicans.
For the most part, Nats officials and broadcasters speak of Nats history being of the early-to-mid 20th century Senators (whose official name was the Nationals) that moved to Minnesota in 1961, and then from 2005 (year of the Expos' move to DC) to present. (Oddly enough, the "second" Senators that eventually moved to Texas in 1971 are not mentioned much at all.) Every now and then the Expos history is referred to but only in relevant instances. I seriously doubt anyone connected with the current Nats will want to "retain" the Expos history.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:16 PM
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The Rays will print money if they host 18 games against Boston and Toronto in Montreal.

Montreal deserves a franchise and has proven that they would support one until Jeffrey Loria did all he could to kill the Expos.

Pfft...Loria killed the franchise in Miami too and was punished by being turned into a billionaire for it.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:24 PM
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This is just so weird.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:28 PM
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Whatís a real shame of this is that the Rays do very well with TV ratings though no one really knows if a new stadium in Tampa would actually bring fans to the game. Look at the fiasco that the Marlins are with their new stadium.
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:04 PM
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What players would sign with not only a two city team, but a two country team? Dual citizenship/residency is a bitch on a young family.

I canít wait for the dual family headlines, though.
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The Rays will print money if they host 18 games against Boston and Toronto in Montreal.

Montreal deserves a franchise and has proven that they would support one until Jeffrey Loria did all he could to kill the Expos.

Pfft...Loria killed the franchise in Miami too and was punished by being turned into a billionaire for it.
Loria deserves some of the blame, but the seeds of the Expos death were planted many years before that. Jonah Keri wrote a great book "Up, Up and Away..." about it. Toronto stole the English broadcast rights out from under the Expos' noses. The '94 strike of course played a part too.
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Okay, so they start the season in Tampa and end it in Montreal. So where would any playoff games go?
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:48 AM
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Okay, so they start the season in Tampa and end it in Montreal. So where would any playoff games go?
Maybe they would leave it up to the regular-season attendance numbers?
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What players would sign with not only a two city team, but a two country team? Dual citizenship/residency is a bitch on a young family.

I canít wait for the dual family headlines, though.
Dual citizenship is not needed. Most MLB players live in cities that are not the hometown of the team they currently play for (who stays with one team for an entire extended career other than Derek Jeter?). This is not a problem at all. Montreal is not on the other side of the world, so there would no more inconvenience to the families than a Red Sox player who lives in California with his wife and kids.
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:38 AM
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Dual citizenship is not needed. Most MLB players live in cities that are not the hometown of the team they currently play for (who stays with one team for an entire extended career other than Derek Jeter?). This is not a problem at all. Montreal is not on the other side of the world, so there would no more inconvenience to the families than a Red Sox player who lives in California with his wife and kids.
I didnít mean a literal citizenship, just the concept of it standing the the same. I have a friend who has to lug his family with him to oil fields in Canada twice a year and everyone hates it. Some guys are big on family and some are fine being separated for months at a time, this move eliminates a lot of signees IMHO. Itís not like leaving town for a road trip.

I donít believe ďmostĒ is accurate. I only know less than a handful of the married guys on the dbacks who donít live in town with their families.
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Old 06-21-2019, 02:55 PM
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I saw the Blue Jays play a preseason game in Olympic Stadium a few years ago and it's a terrible venue for baseball. I think they'd need a new stadium in Montreal for this to work.
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I didn’t mean a literal citizenship, just the concept of it standing the the same. I have a friend who has to lug his family with him to oil fields in Canada twice a year and everyone hates it. Some guys are big on family and some are fine being separated for months at a time, this move eliminates a lot of signees IMHO. It’s not like leaving town for a road trip.

I don’t believe “most” is accurate. I only know less than a handful of the married guys on the dbacks who don’t live in town with their families.
A couple of years ago, only David Robertson listed Chicago as his hometown among the guys on the Sox' 25 man roster.

Could not find the list this of what the hometowns are of the current gang. Most players have apartments in the home city of their team (they are on road for half the season, so they are really at "home" for about three months during the entire year).

How is playing in Canada different than any US city? If the Rays were splitting their season between Tampa and Portland, Oregon or Nashville, Tennessee would you have the same opinion?
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