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Old 09-29-2018, 11:27 PM
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The potential game 163s would be held in Chicago and LA due to them having better head to head records agains the Brewers and Rockies respectively.

The Wild Card game will be hosted by the 2nd place team in the NL Central on Tuesday night.
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Old 09-30-2018, 01:08 AM
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Got to give the NL credit for making this interesting right through 162. The AL hasn't been competitive since the All-Star Break.
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:05 AM
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Got to give the NL credit for making this interesting right through 162. The AL hasn't been competitive since the All-Star Break.
The AL is as top-heavy as I've ever seen it. After the five playoff teams (3 of them with 100+ wins), you have two respectable teams in SEA and TB, and then the rest of the AL is a whole mess of bad.

The NL is much more balanced, to the point where I could see any of the 5 teams making it to the World Series and not really be too surprised.
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:14 PM
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Dumb question: so, the MLB scheduling thing where all teams play Game 162 at the same has been in effect how long? I dimly thought that it only applied to those teams in the postseason races at the end, but I see that these game times for today were set right from the beginning of the season. It appears that when I repress a lot from bad Sox seasons I just miss a thing or two.

(Also, not a hijack or excuse but I am disoriented by the Bears score. )
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:50 PM
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All four teams in question today are winning, so it looks like we're going to have two Game 163's tomorrow.
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:27 PM
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All four teams in question today are winning, so it looks like we're going to have two Game 163's tomorrow.
Not only winning, but winning big. Brewers are up 11-0 in the 9th, Cubs are up 10-5 in the 7th, Dodgers won 15-0, and the Rockies won 12-0 (note: Charlie Blackmon hit for the cycle).

There will be a Game 163 for the NL West title, with the Dodgers hosting the Rockies by virtue of better H2H.

Assuming the scores hold, the Cubs will host the Brewers in another Game 163 for the NL Central.

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Old 09-30-2018, 10:41 PM
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I love the game 163s, but if a team wins home field advantage based on having a better h2h record, isnít there a good argument that they should just win the division based on that criteria?
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Old 09-30-2018, 11:04 PM
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I love the game 163s, but if a team wins home field advantage based on having a better h2h record, isnít there a good argument that they should just win the division based on that criteria?

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I love the game 163s, but if a team wins home field advantage based on having a better h2h record, isn’t there a good argument that they should just win the division based on that criteria?
If the WC game was anything more than a glorified game 163 in its own right, I would agree but as a player, I wouldn't want to find out I had to play a Do or Die game without getting a chance to avoid it. You think any of these teams wants to play that WC game when they could skip it and go straight to a 5 game series?
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:11 AM
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The wild card game would be a bit like a bronze medal game: two teams coming off a loss. It would remain to be seen which is better at shaking off the loss.
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:35 PM
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The wild card game would be a bit like a bronze medal game: two teams coming off a loss. It would remain to be seen which is better at shaking off the loss.
Yes, and both of the teams will likely have taxed bullpens because you'd have to assume that both teams will be pulling out all the stops to win Game 163 to avoid the wild card.
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:38 PM
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I remember in 2005 when the White Sox clinched in Detroit and we ended up the season in Cleveland with 3 games remaining and we had a 3 game lead going in to that series. I said "what if Cleveland sweeps us?" And I was told it didn't make any difference since the White Sox had the better head to head record vs Cleveland that year.



Fortunately the Sox won all 3 against the Tribe and ended up with 99 wins and the Tribe was stuck at 93. I do admit that there would've been a taint on our Division Title in '05 had the Tribe swept us and we both ended up at 96 Wins.



For the life of me, I can't figure out how the Cubs-Brewers season ending tie is any different?? Can somebody please enlighten me?
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I remember in 2005 when the White Sox clinched in Detroit and we ended up the season in Cleveland with 3 games remaining and we had a 3 game lead going in to that series. I said "what if Cleveland sweeps us?" And I was told it didn't make any difference since the White Sox had the better head to head record vs Cleveland that year.



Fortunately the Sox won all 3 against the Tribe and ended up with 99 wins and the Tribe was stuck at 93. I do admit that there would've been a taint on our Division Title in '05 had the Tribe swept us and we both ended up at 96 Wins.



For the life of me, I can't figure out how the Cubs-Brewers season ending tie is any different?? Can somebody please enlighten me?
The difference now is a 1 game wild card decider to move onto the NLDS. In 2005, both teams were moving on to a best of 5 division series. Ask any of the 4 teams today what they would rather play in, an automatic 5 game series or a one game wild card, and I can bet every team would want to skip the one game wild card.
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:30 PM
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I remember in 2005 when the White Sox clinched in Detroit and we ended up the season in Cleveland with 3 games remaining and we had a 3 game lead going in to that series. I said "what if Cleveland sweeps us?" And I was told it didn't make any difference since the White Sox had the better head to head record vs Cleveland that year.



Fortunately the Sox won all 3 against the Tribe and ended up with 99 wins and the Tribe was stuck at 93. I do admit that there would've been a taint on our Division Title in '05 had the Tribe swept us and we both ended up at 96 Wins.



For the life of me, I can't figure out how the Cubs-Brewers season ending tie is any different?? Can somebody please enlighten me?
I believe it has to do with the extra Wild Card now.

Back in '05, there was only 1 Wild Card, so a tiebreaker between 2 teams who both would've made the playoffs (and both made a 5-game series) ended up being decided by other factors. Now, because everyone wants to avoid that 1 game Wild Card crap shoot, it makes a difference who wins the division versus who has to play in a virtual play-in game.
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:48 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong: the winner of Brewers/Cubs Game 163 becomes the #1 seed in the playoffs and faces the WC winner in the NLDS, right? So you could easily see a Cubs/Brewers NLDS.
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