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Old 05-10-2018, 04:54 AM
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Sox are 9-25 and it's time to shuffle the deck. Here are some moves I wish they'd make.

PITCHERS

- Release most of the 30+ year old pitchers who aren't worth a prospect: Gonzalez, Soria, Volstad, Santiago, Infante. Maybe send one or two down if there are spots to fill; maybe Hahn still hopes he can get something for Soria; but these experiments need to end sooner than later.
- Send down Bummer. Keep Fry for a longer look.
- Bring up Kopech as fifth starter.
- Choose between Beck and Covey as long man.
- Bring up Gomez (30) and Cedeno (31) and Scahill (31), in that order, to fill available bullpen spots.

- Promote Stephens to the Charlotte rotation.
- Promote Hamilton, Clark, and Kubat to the Charlotte bullpen.

POSITION PLAYERS

- This is tougher. Moncada and Avi will need their spots back. Jose Rondon and Palka have acquitted themselves well, but they have to go back to Charlotte.
- Thompson and Engel don't have much rope left, but somebody has to play center, so they survive for now.
- Promote Jimenez, Zavala, and Michalczewski to Charlotte. Release Cunningham, release Perez, and demote Austin to Birmingham.
- Promote Booker and Basabe to Birmingham.
- Release Barnum.

Palka is hitting; he has to stay.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:33 AM
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Interesting quote from Collins about his recent change in his approach at the plate- not really a confidence builder when it comes to White Sox player development.

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Old 05-10-2018, 09:01 AM
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Interesting quote from Collins about his recent change in his approach at the plate- not really a confidence builder when it comes to White Sox player development.

https://www.soxmachine.com/2018/05/1...ys-may-9-2018/
The Sox have implemented an organization-wide approach to hitting, just as they have had for many years on the pitching side with Don Cooper.

It’s not the first time they have done this; in the 80s and early 90s they tried to get all their hitters to adopt the Walt Hriniak hitting method. It worked well for some, like Thomas and Ventura, and not for others, like Sosa.

I think this is a situation where both the Sox and Collins realized their approach wasn’t working for him, and the Sox were flexible enough to let Collins go back to his college hitting stance, which apparently allows him to see the ball better.

This is a much better outcome than giving up on Collins because he wouldn’t fit into the organizational philosophy. At this rate, maybe he’ll merit a promotion to Charlotte at mid-season, and if he keeps this up he’ll again climb the prospect lists.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:55 AM
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The Sox have implemented an organization-wide approach to hitting, just as they have had for many years on the pitching side with Don Cooper.

It’s not the first time they have done this; in the 80s and early 90s they tried to get all their hitters to adopt the Walt Hriniak hitting method. It worked well for some, like Thomas and Ventura, and not for others, like Sosa.

I think this is a situation where both the Sox and Collins realized their approach wasn’t working for him, and the Sox were flexible enough to let Collins go back to his college hitting stance, which apparently allows him to see the ball better.

This is a much better outcome than giving up on Collins because he wouldn’t fit into the organizational philosophy. At this rate, maybe he’ll merit a promotion to Charlotte at mid-season, and if he keeps this up he’ll again climb the prospect lists.
Any word on how his catching skills are progressing? One of the concerns about Collins (before his offensive struggles) was whether he was good enough at catching to stick at the position as he makes his way up to the majors.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:12 AM
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Palka is hitting; he has to stay.
I agree- unfortunately he and Delmonico are redundant on the roster (LH corner OF/1B/DH types)- but I think it's time for the Adam Engel experiment to end- so I think he needs to go when Avi is back.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:21 AM
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Interesting quote from Collins about his recent change in his approach at the plate- not really a confidence builder when it comes to White Sox player development.
Not really. Like above, some players match up with the approach/mechanics, some do not. There really is no magic bullet to hitting, you have to handle each case differently. Good for Zack for identifying that the change was not working and making the proper adjustments.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:22 AM
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Sox are 9-25 and it's time to shuffle the deck. Here are some moves I wish they'd make.

PITCHERS

- Release most of the 30+ year old pitchers who aren't worth a prospect: Gonzalez, Soria, Volstad, Santiago, Infante. Maybe send one or two down if there are spots to fill; maybe Hahn still hopes he can get something for Soria; but these experiments need to end sooner than later.
- Send down Bummer. Keep Fry for a longer look.
- Bring up Kopech as fifth starter.
- Choose between Beck and Covey as long man.
- Bring up Gomez (30) and Cedeno (31) and Scahill (31), in that order, to fill available bullpen spots.

- Promote Stephens to the Charlotte rotation.
- Promote Hamilton, Clark, and Kubat to the Charlotte bullpen.

POSITION PLAYERS

- This is tougher. Moncada and Avi will need their spots back. Jose Rondon and Palka have acquitted themselves well, but they have to go back to Charlotte.
- Thompson and Engel don't have much rope left, but somebody has to play center, so they survive for now.
- Promote Jimenez, Zavala, and Michalczewski to Charlotte. Release Cunningham, release Perez, and demote Austin to Birmingham.
- Promote Booker and Basabe to Birmingham.
- Release Barnum.
Why does the deck need to be shuffled right now? Most of these moves will occur, but there's no need to make sweeping changes at this point of the season.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:52 AM
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Stephens is the only pitcher worth a damn from the pre- rebuild era. Not sure where he slots, but I like his game.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:55 AM
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Any word on why Luis Gonzalez has been out? Looks like his last game played for Kanny was 5/3. He was on fire up to that point.
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Old 05-10-2018, 11:29 AM
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Any word on why Luis Gonzalez has been out? Looks like his last game played for Kanny was 5/3. He was on fire up to that point.
Futuresox said he hurt his finger, but not badly enough to go on the DL
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:36 PM
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I'm not saying Blake Rutherford heard me call him out, but homeboy is hitting home runs now.

This makes him not just an interesting prospect, this makes him a top 25 prospect and probably third in our depth charts (Assuming Adolfo comes in as a DH/ OF).

Eloy/ Robert/ Rutherford is your outfield if Rutherford develops.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:51 PM
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I'm not saying Blake Rutherford heard me call him out, but homeboy is hitting home runs now.

This makes him not just an interesting prospect, this makes him a top 25 prospect and probably third in our depth charts (Assuming Adolfo comes in as a DH/ OF).

Eloy/ Robert/ Rutherford is your outfield if Rutherford develops.
Yes this is nice to see, but jumping into the top 25 based on 2 HRs is a bit of an over-reaction. He's probably the third-best position prospect in the organization, but I wouldn't put him ahead of some of the pitchers like Kopech and Hansen (remember me?), even Cease and Dunning who are off to equally impressive starts this year.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:13 PM
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Why does the deck need to be shuffled right now? Most of these moves will occur, but there's no need to make sweeping changes at this point of the season.
Several players have earned promotions - Kopech and Jimenez and Booker, for starters. Several players have earned demotions.

"Flip candidates" who have failed should be jettisoned and replaced with other flip candidates. They turn into pumpkins at the trade deadline.

Players are starting to come back from the DL.

Why would you not shuffle the deck now? There will be a lot more shuffling later, caused by more of the same and also the draft/start of short season ball/trade deadline.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:31 PM
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As bad as the major league team is, the minor league teams are a treat this year. There's something to get excited about every single night.

Blake Battenfield's line for Kanny tonight: 8 3 0 0 0 10
Laz Rivera, their shortstop, is batting .366.
These two guys were on nobody's top 30, but because of the depth in the system, not their talent.

Winston-Salem lost, but Blake Rutherford did hit his third homer. Now slugging .513.

Go back a day and all four teams won by an aggregate score of 40-14.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:35 PM
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Futuresox said he hurt his finger, but not badly enough to go on the DL
It looks like Gonzalez was back in the lineup tonight and went 1 for 5.

Does anyone know anything about RHP Blake Battenfield? He seems to be off to a nice start for Kannapolis. In 6 starts he has a 1.75 ERA with 24 K and only 4 BB according to MiLB.com. I don't know if that includes tonight's outing where he went 8.0 IP and had 0 R, 3 H, 0 BB, and 10 Ks. He was our 17th round pick last year.
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