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View Poll Results: Most Improved White Sox player from last season?
Lucas Giolito 34 64.15%
Yoan Moncada 10 18.87%
Tim Anderson 8 15.09%
Churro guy 1 1.89%
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:40 PM
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Default Most Improved White Sox from last season?

Who do you feel is the turn-around player from last year for the White Sox?

Lucas Giolito?

Yoan Moncada?

Time Anderson?
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:44 PM
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Tough call, but I think I'd go with Moncada.

Changing positions and playing at an All Star level defensively, improving his hitting from both sides of the plate, and then finishing third in the batting title after Tim Anderson and LaMahieu.

Very impressive.

Anderson would be next IMO, but still has to improve his defense.

All 3 of them were very impressive this year. Hopefully a sign of things to come next year and beyond.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:45 PM
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Looked up some folks on baseball-reference to see what the stats say.

Lucas Giolito had a 5.6 WAR season in 2019. His career WAR, including both 2019 and all previous seasons, is 5.4.

Tim Anderson merely became twice as good of a player as he was in his previous seasons. Nowhere near as impressive as Lucas. Yoan Moncada was somewhere between the two of them, becoming about 2.5 times as good of a player.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:47 PM
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A more interesting question is who will be the most improved White Sox next season?
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:52 PM
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Really tough choice but how could i not vote for Moncada . i love the guy, and look forward to seeing him represent the Chicago White Sox in many future All Star games.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:53 PM
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Lucas Giolito was the worst pitcher in baseball last season. This season, he probably will receive down-ballot votes for the Cy Young Award.
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Lucas Giolito was the worst pitcher in baseball last season. This season, he probably will receive down-ballot votes for the Cy Young Award.
He got my vote too.
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Added the requisite Churro guy.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:19 PM
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It is no doubt all 3 did an amazing job of turning things around their performances from last season. I actual was stuck between Gio and Moncada. While TA did great at the plate, I excluded him because his D still needs much improvement. My pick was Yoan. Moncada went from the "strike out king" to ending 3rd in the batting championship race. Plus he added power and his defense was also a huge improvement.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:36 PM
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A more interesting question is who will be the most improved White Sox next season?
Well, a lot of the players on this year's team won't be on next years, or will be reduced to reserve roles. Really only: Lopez, Cease and Collins would be candidates. Though Cease and Collins probably haven't played enough to be considered. Jace Fry or Herrera could if they become lock down back end guys. Eloy, if could also if he goes to a .950 OPS player and stays healthy, but he's already improved SO much this year from where he was in April/May.

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Well, a lot of the players on this year's team won't be on next years, or will be reduced to reserve rolls. Really only: Lopez, Cease and Collins would be candidates. Though Cease and Collins probably haven't played enough to be considered. Jace Fry or Herrera could if they become lock down back end guys. Eloy, if could also if he goes to a .950 OPS player and stays healthy, but he's already improved SO much this year from where he was in April/May.
I expect all of Lopez, Cease and Collins to be better. I expect Fry to be worse; he has trouble with RHP.

I expect a .275 average and 40+ HR from Eloy next year, but his defense will continue to suck, and I don't think that level of improvement will be enough to win.

So I'm going with Collins.
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Giolito, definitely.
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Giolito.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:43 PM
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All three players (Anderson, Moncada and Giolito) had significant turnarounds in 2019. Maybe the most surprising and impressive about face came from Giolito. He went from the worst era among starting pitchers to a top of the rotation stud in one year.

Another guy who had an excellent season was James McCann, even if he wasn't on the Sox roster last season. His hitting, as well as the way he called pitches and handled behind-the-plate duties, was a tremendous upgrade. He fell off offensively a little in the second half, but he impressed me all season long as a solid backstop.
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We're forgetting about Bummer. He went from a guy who was learning on the job (and hanging on by a thread) to our best reliever.
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