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Old 10-03-2018, 09:29 AM
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I don’t think the Cubs landing Harper is as simple as throwing a gigantic check at him. They’d have to move a lot of pieces around. They’ve still got Heyward’s bloated contract for another 4 years. Schwarber would definitely have to be traded (likely for very little), as he’s pretty much confined to LF. Almora is their only center fielder, and a defensive outfield of Harper in CF and Schwarber in LF would be a disaster. Then, with Bryant, Baez, and Rizzo entrenched in the infield, you have exactly one spot between Happ, Zobrist, and Russell (who will eventually be back in the fold next year.

Not saying it won’t or can’t happen, but the logistics are a lot more difficult than most will imagine. Not to mention that after Hendricks and Lester and Q, their rotation is a bunch of expensive question marks. They’d have to do a whole lot to make it work and even then, the fact that Harper and Bryant grew up playing together is a fraction as meaningful as Cubs fans would have you believe. This ain’t the NBA. 2 or 3 players that get along do not a team make.
We may see a permanent position change to LF for Bryant next year. 3B takes a brutal physical toll on guys who regularly play the position, and Bryant is showing the ill effects of that wear-and-tear. If Schwarber gets moved to help the bullpen and Heyward gets moved to recoup pennies on the dollar, the outfield could be Bryant-Almora-Harper left-to-right.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:37 AM
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We may see a permanent position change to LF for Bryant next year. 3B takes a brutal physical toll on guys who regularly play the position, and Bryant is showing the ill effects of that wear-and-tear. If Schwarber gets moved to help the bullpen and Heyward gets moved to recoup pennies on the dollar, the outfield could be Bryant-Almora-Harper left-to-right.
The Cubs would be lucky to get a B type prospect for Kyle. He has no value. Theo really screwed that one up.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:49 AM
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Oh absolutely. The most bro-tastic turd in MLB was tailor-made for the outdoor frat house on Clark and Addison.

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Old 10-03-2018, 10:11 AM
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I don't think it can be assumed that the Cubs can go out and sign a guy like Harper. Baseball-reference says their payroll for 2019 (assuming no options are exercised) is already $175.8 million. In 2020, the Cubs will have $75 million committed to just four guys and Bryant, Hendricks and Baez will all be arbitration eligible.

Even if the Cubs do go out and sign Harper, another issue of concern would be their pitching. Lester will be 35 next year, so will Hamels (assuming you bring him back). Hendricks is still good and under 30, Quintana has been disappointing, and Darvish and Chatwood are huge question marks. The bullpen is also a question mark but it feels like almost every bullpen can rebuilt year-to-year. I don't think they have anyone in the minors either.

The Cubs are still in pretty good shape for next year even if they just stand pat but their window for contention is starting to close a bit more.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:14 AM
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Oh absolutely. The most bro-tastic turd in MLB was tailor-made for the outdoor frat house on Clark and Addison.

LOL That applies to both Harper AND Schwarber!
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:32 AM
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Still in hospital so I didn't see this until just now. Brought a smile on my face.

Don't think the Cubs will be in the market for Harper for one simple reason. Unless they move a ****load of salary they'll be over the tax threshold and I think I've seen it reported where Ricketts does not want to go above it.

As for now I'm feeling good despite my illness because the ****ing Cubs are DOA.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:41 AM
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We may see a permanent position change to LF for Bryant next year. 3B takes a brutal physical toll on guys who regularly play the position, and Bryant is showing the ill effects of that wear-and-tear. If Schwarber gets moved to help the bullpen and Heyward gets moved to recoup pennies on the dollar, the outfield could be Bryant-Almora-Harper left-to-right.
That's a good call: Bryant to LF permanently.

Schwarber, Russell and Happ get moved (IMO) for pitching help.

As for Harper, he wants t be here. But at what cost?

Something I heard at the HC this morning on ESPN: the question was brought up about re-signing Maddon. So he must be up soon. The discussion took the turn of not for what amount but whether the Cubs re-up him as manager.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:03 AM
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That's a good call: Bryant to LF permanently.

Schwarber, Russell and Happ get moved (IMO) for pitching help.

As for Harper, he wants t be here. But at what cost?

Something I heard at the HC this morning on ESPN: the question was brought up about re-signing Maddon. So he must be up soon. The discussion took the turn of not for what amount but whether the Cubs re-up him as manager.
Maddon's contract is up after next season. Some rumors out there he is interested in going back to LA and taking the vacant Angels job.

Moving Bryant to left makes sense to me. Bote was impressive at 3B for them defensively.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:12 AM
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Well this time they won’t have the rush.
I don't think they even have to worry about it as I believe this is the year the visiting clubhouse finally gets to be a part of the renovation. The old one really did go out in style though.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:28 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!! EAT IT, SCRUB FANS!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!

So, which Chicago team was more dominant when they won the title in our lifetimes

**** THE ****ING CUBS. **** THAT **** TEAM. **** THEM

I just read a comment that said many supposed cub fans didn't even know they played last night. Fake ass ****ing fans. **** the lot of them. All of them.

It's time to beat them to #4, we can ****ing do this, I believe in the Palehose.

Let this cubbi success motivate us to strike back 10x harder. WE CAN DO THIS. All I ask is that management replace a billboard with stunning artwork, we need something to attract casuals.

GO WHITE SOX, this small blip will remain that way, we can get back on top and stay there.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:41 PM
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Theo & Jed spent $45,000,000 in salary this year on Flu Darvish, Tyler Chatwood & Brandon Morrow. Morrow getting injured was a big blow.

Darvish needs to bounce back next season. Otherwise that contract and Heyward's contract are complete garbage.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:59 PM
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Even during a full re-build the Sox won as many playoff games as the Cubs this year!

Great to see two different teams celebrate at Wrigley within two days....
Within 1 day, 9 hours.

Interesting that their week started with a rare noon start, and ended with a rare midnight ending.

In the midnight hour, we want more, more, more. Da da da... with the Rockies winning, more, more more!!!
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I've been trying to ignore the other team in Chicago all year. This is hard considering the news coverage they get.

So when I awoke this morning and checked the news I was pleasantly surprised I must say.

The news media will be wearing black armbands this morning.

Yeah, I'm all broken up too.
I went dark almost all of 2016 postseason, it took every ounce of energy to avoid knowing what's happening.

Didn't watch last night or Monday, can't stomach that team at all. I also avoided knowing what they did at our park, am glad to now know they celebrated NOTHING.

But since it is way too hard to go dark again, I checked out the result to a pleasant surprise today. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one :D

**** THAT NORTHSIDE TEAM. All day, every day, and 2x on Sunday. **** them, the balance of power must be restored soon. We cannot be denied success, we must rise back to the top, and step on them on the way.
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:24 PM
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:28 PM
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The Cubs would be lucky to get a B type prospect for Kyle. He has no value. Theo really screwed that one up.
What? How? He was worth 3.2 fWAR, plays decent left, and has a decent bat with lots of upside. And he's like 25. They'd get more for him than that.

And for those who are negging on Harper- I'd LOVE to get him here on the South Side. He'd cost a lot but if we want to act like a major market team, then getting him would be a major market move. The White Sox love to cry poor sometimes but they could afford the contract. He'd put butts in the seat and would be a centerpiece for a rebuilding team.

And for those who don't like his attitude, did you even pay attention to some of the **** AJ Pierzynski pulled and said during his time here?
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:33 PM
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The Cubs would be lucky to get a B type prospect for Kyle. He has no value. Theo really screwed that one up.
I wouldn't say his value is THAT low. It isn't top prospect level it was, but he is 25, coming off an 800+ OPS year, gets on base, good power. He isn't a bad platoon bat vs RHP, but he isn't the Stud they thought he was, atleast not yet. He is a guy who might truly be more valuable to them than anyone else in the league.
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