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Old 09-21-2018, 02:25 PM
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I'm already hearing comparisons for Kopech to Strasburg and Prior, which is to say he'll never be the same pitcher. Never mind all the others who have had this surgery and been successful or that Strasburg has remained a mainstay in the Nationals' rotation.
Didn't Prior have shoulder issues? Wasn't that what led to his career ending?

Also, for people making the comparison to Kerry Wood: In his first full season back from Tommy John (2001), he threw 174 innings with 217 strikeouts and a 3.36 ERA. He then had back-to-back seasons with 200+ innings pitched and 200+ strikeouts. He then had tricep and knee problems, which led him to move to the bullpen.

My point is: Kopech can come back strong from a Tommy John surgery.
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I'm already hearing comparisons for Kopech to Strasburg and Prior, which is to say he'll never be the same pitcher. Never mind all the others who have had this surgery and been successful or that Strasburg has remained a mainstay in the Nationals' rotation.

You should probably stay away from sports-blab radio.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:48 PM
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You should probably stay away from sports-blab radio.
Or in this case, bars.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:21 PM
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Haven't seen the vids but I am wondering: after successful surgery, does this guy think pitchers go back to their early or late loading to retain or regain extra velocity, or do they amend their ways and use proper timing?

Also, if I put what this guy is saying together with what Tommy John is saying, it seems possible that some kids are being coached to use the early or late timing, despite the risk of injury. It's one thing for an adult to decide to take the risk. I would hope that kids are taught proper form.
They usually continue loading early or late. There are very few pitchers who load on time anymore, which leads me to believe that late loading is being taught. Go look at the pics of the pitching prospects on MLB Pipeline's T100 list and they're almost all late. Most hard throwers that eventually got hurt were late or early, including, most notably, Koufax and Smoltz.
I just went to the T100 list and looked at RHP, and you can tell that Sixto Sanchez, Honeywell, Greene, Mize, Wright and Reyes are late loading.

A lot of baseball people dismiss this guy as nonsense, but go look at his website. I've been following him since 2004-ish and he has nailed a lot of the worst offenders.
http://chrisoleary.com/

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