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Old 06-03-2019, 08:11 PM
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Why wouldn't he be able to play First Base
Bad wording on my part. The only question was the size being right handed and under 6'0". But Garvey did it; so did Skowron. So as long and he catches everything thrown to him, and he will, he should be good. It's the bat: too good to pass on.


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Because the Sox drafted him... DUH!
Really?
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:23 PM
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EXCELLENT pick. This has me hyped. Vaughn is the 1B of the future. I've heard him described as a shorter version of a player with the power of Paul Goldschmidt and batting eye of Joey Votto with the glove of Paul Konerko (and the PK's speed on the basepaths too lol). So happy they didn't get cute and took him.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:36 PM
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EXCELLENT pick. This has me hyped. Vaughn is the 1B of the future. I've heard him described as a shorter version of a player with the power of Paul Goldschmidt and batting eye of Joey Votto with the glove of Paul Konerko (and the PK's speed on the basepaths too lol). So happy they didn't get cute and took him.
It has me dreaming of that Infield of the present and future; Vaughn, Madrigal, Anderson, Moncada. Whew!!!
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:40 PM
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EXCELLENT pick. This has me hyped. Vaughn is the 1B of the future. I've heard him described as a shorter version of a player with the power of Paul Goldschmidt and batting eye of Joey Votto with the glove of Paul Konerko (and the PK's speed on the basepaths too lol). So happy they didn't get cute and took him.
Vaughn's not a speed demon by any means, but he’s nowhere near Paulie's level of slow.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:54 PM
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Bad wording on my part. The only question was the size being right handed and under 6'0". But Garvey did it; so did Skowron. So as long and he catches everything thrown to him, and he will, he should be good. It's the bat: too good to pass on.




Really?
I know that's not your schtick actually, but I couldn't resist the straight line. I was hoping the smartass smilie at the end would show I was joking. However there are people on these forums who that's basically true for.
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:13 PM
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Okay, Draft gurus - who should we hope falls to us in the 2R?
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:22 PM
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It has me dreaming of that Infield of the present and future; Vaughn, Madrigal, Anderson, Moncada. Whew!!!
^This. That potentially is an outstanding IF all around.

I can't wait to see them plus Eloy and Robert in our lineup.
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:26 PM
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I like the pick. I wonder what this means for Jake Burger's future with the organization? Stock-piling talent is never a bad idea.
Hope Burger rakes and then trade one of them (hopefully for some pitching!). Hope the same thing for Sheets.
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:29 PM
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Okay, Draft gurus - who should we hope falls to us in the 2R?
I am not a draft guru by any means. But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. And I also read this article.

https://www.southsidesox.com/2019/5/...raft-whos-no-2

The only guy who I read about before today that I've got my eye on is Gunnar Henderson, a HS SS. There are also a trio of HS pitchers that are in MLB.com's top 30 that are still available (Allan, Malone, and Goss). Not sure if signability is a concern for these guys.

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Old 06-03-2019, 09:49 PM
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He had 82 BB (23 intentional) and only 33K last year. He registered 176 AB so rougly 260 PA and a .539 OBP (NOT a typo). 123 TB in 169 AB according to baseball cube. That's just freakish...

As a point of comparison, Frank Thomas had an an-base percentage of .568 in his last season at Auburn. He walked 73 times, was hit 10 times and struck out 25 times in 206 at bats. Only 165 total bases, though. Almost half of his 83 hits were for extra bases with 19 doubles, three triples and 19 home runs. I don't know what the weather was like in the SEC in 1989, but it was likely better than it's been in the PAC-12, and it looks like Thomas played a dozen more games than Vaughn did this year.

The comparisons to Frank Thomas immediately hit me, and getting another Frank Thomas would be something special indeed. The year after Thomas was drafted out of Auburn, he came up in August and hit .330 with power in his short rookie debut.

It will be interesting to see how Vaughn responds to professional baseball when pitchers are less inclined to pitch around him. Three decades later, it's easy forget how smooth Thomas' transition was. I read an article in 1990 about Thomas not being able to prove himself in Birmingham, which is as far as the White Sox sent him through their system, because he wasn't getting pitched to. He had an on-base percentage of .487 in 109 games before getting called up, and led the American League in on-base percentage in three of his first four full seasons. When he wasn't walking, he was hitting well over .300.

If you're looking at the ceiling for how good a college first baseman can be, a Frank Thomas ceiling isn't so bad. A Frank Thomas with a better glove wouldn't be at all bad. But if the Sox are looking for help in the bullpen, Vaughn might be a stretch. He only pitched two-thirds of an inning this year for Cal, retiring both hitters he faced.

But for those looking for reasons to question this pick, there is this to consider. In 2012, the White Sox selected Courtney Hawkins with their first-round pick. Hawkins went to Mary Carroll High School in Corpus Christi, Texas. Far from being pitched around at Birmingham, the Barons released him last year. The last I heard, he was playing for the San Jose Giants, which is close to the majors only geographically. I point this out because Vaughn, from Santa Rosa, California, graduated from Maria Carrillo High School.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:24 PM
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Matthew Thompson - tell me if this sounds familiar - Potential High First Round pick coming into the year, sees his stuff and velo falter on him with some mechanical changes. Showed a very good breaking ball coming into the year but lost it a little.

This sounds like the type of prospect we do very well with. My guess here - Vaughn is a little under slot and we have a good feeling on signing Thompson away
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:28 PM
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Hope Burger rakes and then trade one of them (hopefully for some pitching!). Hope the same thing for Sheets.
Burger will DH!
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:30 PM
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Matthew Thompson - tell me if this sounds familiar - Potential High First Round pick coming into the year, sees his stuff and velo falter on him with some mechanical changes. Showed a very good breaking ball coming into the year but lost it a little.

This sounds like the type of prospect we do very well with. My guess here - Vaughn is a little under slot and we have a good feeling on signing Thompson away
Alec Hansen?
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:31 PM
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Matthew Thompson - tell me if this sounds familiar - Potential High First Round pick coming into the year, sees his stuff and velo falter on him with some mechanical changes. Showed a very good breaking ball coming into the year but lost it a little.

This sounds like the type of prospect we do very well with. My guess here - Vaughn is a little under slot and we have a good feeling on signing Thompson away
Thompson was kind of reach, so I would hope that they don't much, if any, over slot. You should get extra premium in talent if you pay over-slot.
Vaughn was picked right on his projections.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:33 PM
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Thompson was kind of reach, so they shouldn't have to pay much over slot.
They might have to if they want to keep him from going to Texas A&M
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