White Sox Interactive Forums
Sox Clubhouse
 Soxogram: 
GO SOX! DSNB!

Welcome
Go Back   White Sox Interactive Forums > Baseball Discussions > Sox Clubhouse
Home Chat Stats Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 04-27-2019, 01:55 PM
Frater Perdurabo Frater Perdurabo is offline
WSI Prelate
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20,473
Blog Entries: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit View Post
Why DJ? That's not his job. Hire people who can actually teach and help develop talent.
Because he would seem to have the experiences to be a good fit for this particular role, he presumably would like to see the Sox and Eloy succeed, and because maybe he’d like to make some extra money.
__________________
The universe is the practical joke of the General at the expense of the Particular, quoth Frater Perdurabo, and laughed. The disciples nearest him wept, seeing the Universal Sorrow. Others laughed, seeing the Universal Joke. Others wept. Others laughed. Others wept because they couldn't see the Joke, and others laughed lest they should be thought not to see the Joke. But though FRATER laughed openly, he wept secretly; and really he neither laughed nor wept. Nor did he mean what he said.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-27-2019, 03:59 PM
slavko slavko is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Suburban
Posts: 7,729
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huisj View Post
Could this have played a row in their wiiingness to trade him?
Thinking along with you there. He had no role on an NL team. And they were able to make a LF out of Schwarber, despite some of the merriment about it on this board over the years.
__________________
Prince Harry and Meghan are starting to get on my nerves.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-27-2019, 04:12 PM
LoveYourSuit LoveYourSuit is offline
WSI Prelate
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15,198
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frater Perdurabo View Post
Because he would seem to have the experiences to be a good fit for this particular role, he presumably would like to see the Sox and Eloy succeed, and because maybe he’d like to make some extra money.
I wouldn't doubt he would help if asked to. But my point was more being, why the hell do you employ others who are suppose to do this job and aren't capable of doing it?

That's my issue.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-27-2019, 04:25 PM
LITTLE NELL LITTLE NELL is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sebring Florida
Posts: 11,076
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit View Post
I wouldn't doubt he would help if asked to. But my point was more being, why the hell do you employ others who are suppose to do this job and aren't capable of doing it?

That's my issue.
Very good point but that's been the trouble with the Sox for a long time, seems like coaches at the major and minor league level leave a lot to be desired.
__________________
Batting in the second position for the White Sox, number 2, the second baseman Nelson Fox.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-27-2019, 08:10 PM
Frater Perdurabo Frater Perdurabo is offline
WSI Prelate
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20,473
Blog Entries: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoveYourSuit View Post
I wouldn't doubt he would help if asked to. But my point was more being, why the hell do you employ others who are suppose to do this job and aren't capable of doing it?

That's my issue.
Boston is the official outfield and baserunning coach, in addition to his first base coaching duties, no?

I think Eloy needs more help than Boston can give him, both in terms of time for individual attention and in terms of the routes, angles, walls (like the Green Monster and other unique left field walls at other parks), bounces, lighting/shadows, and throws that are unique to left field.

Yes, I understand that we’d like for our players to come up as “finished products.” Well, that ship has sailed for Eloy. He’s here, so let’s give him the best possible opportunity to succeed, and I think that begins with a personal fielding coach/tutor.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04-27-2019, 08:11 PM
Grzegorz Grzegorz is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Western Suburbs
Posts: 4,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slavko View Post
Thinking along with you there. He had no role on an NL team. And they were able to make a LF out of Schwarber, despite some of the merriment about it on this board over the years.

But Schwarber worked his tail off and lost weight to become a decent in LF.


Will Jimenez do the same? Will he be asked to do the same?
__________________
“There were a few hard rules, but everybody was unique, and he understood that. George’s great strength was he didn’t overcoach. There’s no place for panic on the mound.” - Jim Palmer on George Bamberger “Arms and the man,” Sports Illustrated, April 19, 2004
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:20 PM
Mohoney Mohoney is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Posts: 10,921
Default

Someone needs to tell me how in the world Kyle Schwarber qualifies as a decent outfielder. Only 7 outfielders in all of MLB rated worse than Schwarber in Outs Above Average, and only 2 rated below him in Actual Catch Percentage. Those numbers are not an improvement over his 2017 output, either, when he was 8th from the bottom in Outs Above Average and 11th from the bottom in Actual Catch Percentage.

The guy is a rhinoceros out there. It says a lot about Eloy Jimenez that he is somehow worse than Schwarber.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horsemaster Fred
This is the major leagues so get it how you live and let’s fight tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:29 PM
Grzegorz Grzegorz is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Western Suburbs
Posts: 4,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohoney View Post
The guy is a rhinoceros out there. It says a lot about Eloy Jimenez that he is somehow worse than Schwarber.
Schwarber is a better OF than Jimenez. Not even close. The kid and his agent played the White Sox.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:36 PM
Mohoney Mohoney is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Posts: 10,921
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grzegorz View Post
Schwarber is a better OF than Jimenez. Not even close.
No argument here. Eloy was tailor-made to DH. Hopefully the team makes the obvious move and puts him there in 2020.

All I'm saying is that Kyle Schwarber is also a terrible outfielder.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:39 PM
Grzegorz Grzegorz is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Western Suburbs
Posts: 4,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohoney View Post
The guy is a rhinoceros out there. It says a lot about Eloy Jimenez that he is somehow worse than Schwarber.
Schwarber is a decent outfielder and will not kill you out there. Jimenez continues to show that he's ready to see the field. You cannot make him a full time DH. That is, until he shows he can hit.


I continue to be amazed as to how the Chicago White Sox misread most everything they see.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:42 PM
Grzegorz Grzegorz is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Western Suburbs
Posts: 4,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohoney View Post
No argument here. Eloy was tailor-made to DH. Hopefully the team makes the obvious move and puts him there in 2020.
2020? What's he to do this season?
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:48 PM
Mohoney Mohoney is offline
WSI High Priest
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Posts: 10,921
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grzegorz View Post
2020? What's he to do this season?
I assume he will continue to bumble around out there like Winnie the Pooh with a honey jar stuck over his head.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 04-27-2019, 09:53 PM
voodoochile's Avatar
voodoochile voodoochile is offline
Soda Jerk/U.P.W./Lester Pooh Bear
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 57,309
Blog Entries: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grzegorz View Post
Schwarber is a decent outfielder and will not kill you out there. Jimenez continues to show that he's ready to see the field. You cannot make him a full time DH. That is, until he shows he can hit.


I continue to be amazed as to how the Chicago White Sox misread most everything they see.
It's been one month and Eloy's bat has shown plenty of reasons to believe he will develop into an offensive force.
__________________

Riding shotgun on the Sox bandwagon since before there was an Internet...
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 04-27-2019, 10:02 PM
Grzegorz Grzegorz is offline
WSI Church Elder
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Western Suburbs
Posts: 4,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohoney View Post
I assume he will continue to bumble around out there like Winnie the Pooh with a honey jar stuck over his head.
Great, he'll continue to risk his own health and the health of teammates.

Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoochile View Post
It's been one month and Eloy's bat has shown plenty of reasons to believe he will develop into an offensive force.
Really? Certainly not while up in the majors.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 04-27-2019, 11:24 PM
voodoochile's Avatar
voodoochile voodoochile is offline
Soda Jerk/U.P.W./Lester Pooh Bear
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 57,309
Blog Entries: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grzegorz View Post
Great, he'll continue to risk his own health and the health of teammates.


Really? Certainly not while up in the majors.
Are we watching the same player? His bat will be fine once he gets comfortable.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Forum Jump




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:45 AM.




Design by: Michelle

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Site-specific editorial/photos Copyright ©2001 - 2008 White Sox Interactive. All rights reserved.