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Old 02-17-2019, 12:38 PM
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No objection to the initial list.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:02 PM
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Who would be your five starting pitchers, all time?

Walsh, Faber, Lyons, Pierce, Wood, Buehrle, Sale...maybe throw in McDowell. Now pick five.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:05 PM
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Who would be your five starting pitchers, all time?

Walsh, Faber, Lyons, Pierce, Wood, Buehrle, Sale...maybe throw in McDowell. Now pick five.
Walsh, Buehrle and Sale seem shoe-ins. Probably Jack McDowell also, but I admit I don't know much about the Sox pitchers from their earlier years.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:09 PM
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Walsh, Buehrle and Sale seem shoe-ins. Probably Jack McDowell also, but I admit I don't know much about the Sox pitchers from their earlier years.
Actually, I just checked the leaderboards, and McDowell doesn’t belong in the conversation.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:17 PM
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Who would be your five starting pitchers, all time?

Walsh, Faber, Lyons, Pierce, Wood, Buehrle, Sale...maybe throw in McDowell. Now pick five.



Walsh, Faber, Lyons, Pierce, Wood/Buehrle (flip a coin), Sale wasnt around long enough.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:20 PM
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5 Pitchers who spent most of their careers with the Sox... Walsh, Faber, Lyons, Pierce and Buerhle.

5 Hitters....Appling, Fox, Minoso, Thomas, Konerko and Baines (tie).
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:04 PM
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Aaron Rowand. Why consider anyone else?
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:29 AM
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Collins had 66 WAR just in his years with the Sox. His career is almost 120, compared with 70 for Thomas. My point though was that Collins had more numbers with the Sox than with the A's, and by a healthy margin.

Actually, it is 124, which puts him between Hornsby and Ted Williams at 10 th all time.

I can't believe that anyone would rank Collins ahead of Thomas as the greatest White Sox player of all time. It isn't that much different from including Seaver in the argument for the greatest White Sox pitcher. Collins had 45 percent of his WAR with the A's, as if WAR means anything. He won three World Series titles and an MVP with the A's. His Hall of Fame plaque shows him in an A's uniform. Even in 1969, the overwhelming choice for the greatest White Sox player of all-time was Luke Appling. His WAR was and still is irrelevant. Yours is a minority opinion.

Thomas has surpassed Appling in my lifetime. Thomas meant far more to the franchise than Collins ever did, regardless of statistics that were contrived after the fact.
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:00 AM
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Wow this is a tough choice given how long the Franchise has been in existence. I'd be inclined to have Gutzon Borglum carve it in to two mountains.



1901 - 1950: Joe Jackson, Eddie Collins, Red Faber, Luke Appling (I'd be open to swapping out Ted Lyons or Ed Walsh instead of Red Faber)


1951 - 2018: Nellie Fox, Minnie Minoso, Billy Pierce, Frank Thomas (I'd also be open to swapping out Harold Baines over Minnie Minoso)


P.S. Has anybody on this board watched the PBS show American Experience? They had a great show on the carving/creation of Mt Rushmore. Very interesting, and I knew it took a long time to carve out, but I didn't realize it took THAT long! 14 years or the equivalent of all of Mike Hargrove's At Bats, and games Carlton Fisk called for the White Sox.


https://www.nps.gov/moru/learn/histo...ng-history.htm
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:12 AM
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Thomas has surpassed Appling in my lifetime. Thomas meant far more to the franchise than Collins ever did, regardless of statistics that were contrived after the fact.
emphasis mine

How can you possibly know that?
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:07 PM
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I would want any manager who ordered Frank Thomas to bunt fired immediately for incompetence.
Sounds somewhat Bevingtonian...

If choosing the Sox' Mount Rushmore...Thomas, Minoso, Appling, Walsh

If choosing my own Sox' Mount Rushmore...Baines, Pierzynski, Buehrle, Walker. I'd also create a special exemption for Ed Herrmann as my first favorite Sox.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:09 PM
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My personal one: PK, Thomas, Ventura, Buehrle

VERY hard to leave Sale off, but longevity and sentiment do him in.

Those were my favorite guys, Thomas and Ventura as a kid, PK and Burls as a younger adult. I realize 3 of those 3 probably don't make the all time list, but this is mine
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