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Old 01-16-2018, 11:43 AM
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Pittsburgh did what they needed to do: they picked a lane and began a tear-down. However, I can't help but wonder if they may have done better waiting until July to trade McCutchen. Unless there was worry within the organization about McCutchen's 2017 being a fluke in the midst of an otherwise downward spiral, I would have to think that at least one GM in the middle of a pennant race would give up something superior to the package San Francisco gave up.
Imagine JR's fiercest critics and then make that white hot a hundred times over. Pirate fans don't want another 20 years of rebuilding and owner Robert Nutting fools them not one bit. Take the luxury tax money and run while owning a classic ball park funded by the taxpayers.
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Old 01-16-2018, 12:44 PM
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Imagine JR's fiercest critics and then make that white hot a hundred times over. Pirate fans don't want another 20 years of rebuilding and owner Robert Nutting fools them not one bit. Take the luxury tax money and run while owning a classic ball park funded by the taxpayers.
I've pointed this out before, but Pittsburgh didn't really begin rebuilding in earnest until 2007. Before their roster was full of cheap veterans past their prime as they kept trying to catch lightening in a bottle to have an above .500 season.

It sucks the Pirates have to rebuild again, it also sucks their window corresponded with the Cubs window. Hopefully they'll be able to have more success in the 2020s.
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Old 01-16-2018, 01:51 PM
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I've pointed this out before, but Pittsburgh didn't really begin rebuilding in earnest until 2007. Before their roster was full of cheap veterans past their prime as they kept trying to catch lightening in a bottle to have an above .500 season.

It sucks the Pirates have to rebuild again, it also sucks their window corresponded with the Cubs window. Hopefully they'll be able to have more success in the 2020s.
They still have a lot of good young players in their system. I don't think they're at a place where the Cubs, Astros and for that matter Sox were at.

The Cole trade brought them a few players that can play at the big league level now, which is probably why they pulled the trigger.

Don't let Feliz's big league numbers fool you, he was a touted starter prospect and has quality stuff, but was put in a mop-up role with the Astros.

I'm a big fan of Musgrove and at worst they're getting a mid-rotation starter. Both Musgrove and Martes were rushed into their early season starter roles due to injury, and Pittsburgh can afford to take some time to get Musgrove to where he can be as a starter.

With Cole hitting FA in two years, I felt it was a good trade for both sides, despite the fan reaction/optics.
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Old 01-16-2018, 04:38 PM
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Many Pirate fans expect Josh Harrison to be gone in the near future too. It's been a rough week for my Pittsburgh connection family and friends.
http://triblive.com/sports/pirates/1...s-to-be-traded
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