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Old 05-22-2018, 07:10 PM
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I didn’t say the idea was bad. I said that expecting that play to succeed anything more than roughly 50% of the time is unrealistic. I didn’t have a problem with Sanchez bunting, but I also wasn’t majorly upset when the play failed.

Accomplishing anything positive in a major league batter’s box is amazingly difficult, and that includes bunting. Failure is going to happen more often than success is going to happen. No amount of coaching, drilling, or practicing is going to change that.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:37 PM
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Bunting can be used as an element of surprise on infielders or advancing base runners.

Bunting works to break momentum when facing tough pitchers or when facing pitchers that have a hard time fielding their position.

While hitting is individual, where getting a hit a third of the time is a major accomplishment, bunting is mostly a basic process. Anyone that puts the time in can get the basics down.

One of the hardest things to do in sports is to hit a baseball. These days it’s feast or famine. Batting average, launch angles and strikeout statistics prove that point. Laying down a sacrifice may or may not work to advance a runner. A straight K has no chance of advancing a runner.

When it comes to winning baseball balance is best.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:48 PM
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One of the hardest things to do in sports is to hit a baseball.
Bunting one is not that much easier.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:55 PM
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The bunt attempt was a dumb call, but it was only one pitch.

The more serious mistake was allowing both Engel and Thompson to approach the batter's box while a competitive baseball game was being played.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:19 PM
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:46 PM
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The bunt attempt was a dumb call, but it was only one pitch.

The more serious mistake was allowing both Engel and Thompson to approach the batter's box while a competitive baseball game was being played.
From Sox Machine today, RR's explination for the bunt call:

“I actually thought, to be honest, ‘I’d like to get this run across the board. I’d like to tie this ballgame and keep us going,'” manager Rick Renteria said. “Obviously, we didn’t get it across. We’ve had a tough time, in moments, getting a run across with a runner on third.”

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Old 05-22-2018, 11:13 PM
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Bunting one is not that much easier.

It's considerably easier, if BABIP coalesces around .300, and fair bunts are around .500.
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It's considerably easier, if BABIP coalesces around .300, and fair bunts are around .500.
Well there are numerous ways to get runs in without getting a hit and less than two outs. Do Sacrifices get factored in as non-at bats in BABIP or is BABIP based on PA not AB?
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:26 AM
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It's considerably easier, if BABIP coalesces around .300, and fair bunts are around .500.
Which is why I didn’t have a problem with Sanchez’s bunt in that situation...

That being said, just because a bunt is fair does not guarantee that the objective behind the bunt will be met. Sacrifice bunts only succeed about two-thirds of the time. Some fair bunts are popped up. Some fair bunts end with the lead runner being retired. Even some “successes” occasionally don’t meet their objective; some fair bunts in last night’s situation will advance the runner from first to second, but not the runner from third to home.

Meanwhile, that .300 BABIP consists exclusively of successes. Furthermore, roughly one-quarter of BABIP failures in those particular situations will count as “productive outs.”

In other words, the .500 bunt success rate is actually lower than that, while the .300 BABIP success rate is actually higher than that.
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