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Old 05-11-2012, 10:01 PM
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What was the rationale for moving him to the pen? Was it injury fear, or did one of them seriously think he's more valuable in the pen?
If they thought he's more valuable to the pen after the way he's pitched as a starter this season, then they should both be fired.

If we have all the details this was terribly planned. Should have went with the MRI first, then made a decision.

But atleast he's back in the rotation now, and according to the MRI his elbow has no damage. So we can atleast move on from here.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:03 PM
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It's not the end result that bothers me, it's the long and dysfunctional road that led to it that did.
Yeh! One week is just an eternity!
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:12 PM
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Yeh! One week is just an eternity!
It sure seemed long, what with everything going 180 one day to the next, he's fine, he needs an MRI, he's going to the bullpen, he's starting.

Maybe "long" wasn't the right word, but this whole week, anything I heard on the radio about the Sox (besides the games) revolved around this.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:16 PM
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It sure seemed long, what with everything going 180 one day to the next, he's fine, he needs an MRI, he's going to the bullpen, he's starting.

Maybe "long" wasn't the right word, but this whole week, anything I heard on the radio about the Sox (besides the games) revolved around this.
It's the fact the figureheads in this whole ordeal (RV, Coop, and KW) changed their words day-to-day throughout the whole week. That's why it felt long.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:16 PM
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If they thought he's more valuable to the pen after the way he's pitched as a starter this season, then they should both be fired.

If we have all the details this was terribly planned. Should have went with the MRI first, then made a decision.

But atleast he's back in the rotation now, and according to the MRI his elbow has no damage. So we can atleast move on from here.
Has there been a report out on the MRI results? I didn't see anything on the Sox' mlb page.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:27 PM
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Story on Sale with Kenny quotes. Says Sale convinced him and the way he did it "almost crossed the line" but Kenny liked the attitude.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1950444.story

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Old 05-11-2012, 10:55 PM
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I blame TMZ and sports radio, seriously. Sports and gossip have become synonymous. We don't have a "right" to know everything. This whole saga took a week. What a poorly run organization. Teal unnecessary.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:26 PM
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Because of the nature of the job, many pitching coaches wield a lot more power than any other coach on a team. Some have more power than the Manager.
Or, Kenny divided responsibilities in a non-traditional way from Day 1 and this is how it turned out. Failure to c'municate or communicating too damn much or both. None of us know, but it's possible.

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Old 05-11-2012, 11:50 PM
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I blame TMZ and sports radio, seriously. Sports and gossip have become synonymous. We don't have a "right" to know everything. This whole saga took a week. What a poorly run organization. Teal unnecessary.
Well this organization needs to learn how to communicate to the media and thus it's fans because the TMZ/sports radio part of sports is not going away anytime soon. Learn how to communicate what you want from all parties involved or do not let all parties speak. The gossip part of sports is not going away so the White Sox as an organization are going to have to learn how to deal with it.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:57 PM
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Sale looks like he might weight just a shade over 130 pounds and has a whip like throwing motion. I just assumed he would blow out his elbow.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:00 AM
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I blame TMZ and sports radio, seriously. Sports and gossip have become synonymous. We don't have a "right" to know everything. This whole saga took a week. What a poorly run organization. Teal unnecessary.
Definitely. On the Score, I find Lawrence Holmes to someone who can be very good at this job, but far too often resorts to trolling and other nonsense like Bernstein. I heard him the other day doing his reoccurring "5'2" of pure rage" wherein he screamed at KW with how-dare-yous, saying the press wasn't stupid and basically had the right to know everything that goes on in the organization. First off, yes, the press largely is stupid. Next, he needs to realize that the press is more of tool to be manipulated by organizations than a transparent reporting agency exposing the seedy underbellies of sports.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:14 AM
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I'm just glad I get to see Sale tomorrow at the park.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:26 AM
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Definitely. On the Score, I find Lawrence Holmes to someone who can be very good at this job, but far too often resorts to trolling and other nonsense like Bernstein. I heard him the other day doing his reoccurring "5'2" of pure rage" wherein he screamed at KW with how-dare-yous, saying the press wasn't stupid and basically had the right to know everything that goes on in the organization. First off, yes, the press largely is stupid. Next, he needs to realize that the press is more of tool to be manipulated by organizations than a transparent reporting agency exposing the seedy underbellies of sports.
Speaking of media morons, I was watching WTTW's Chicago Tonight uhh, tonight, and they had on Dan McGrath who now is a sportswriter for the New York Times. Anyways, they asked him about Chicago sports and he said that the Cubs rotation has been good and the Cubs have been a surprise thus far and the Sox rotation has been inconsistent.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:33 AM
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Well this organization needs to learn how to communicate to the media and thus it's fans because the TMZ/sports radio part of sports is not going away anytime soon. Learn how to communicate what you want from all parties involved or do not let all parties speak. The gossip part of sports is not going away so the White Sox as an organization are going to have to learn how to deal with it.
Why? Who gives a ****? Communicating with the media doesn't win baseball games. The Sox have never been forthcoming with information. They've never played well with the media. So what?
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:58 AM
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If he blows out his arm, I would be more upset if they had ignored any warning signs instead of clumsily trying to be cautious with him.
I have zero faith that he is actually healthy considering the cluster **** this whole situation was.
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