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Old 08-02-2012, 08:59 AM
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Default God, the Astros suck

3-24 in July, with a run differential of -73 for the month.

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Old 08-02-2012, 09:06 AM
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And we gave up 20 runs to them in three games, two of them losses, in June.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:13 AM
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And we gave up 20 runs to them in three games, two of them losses, in June.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:43 AM
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We lost 2/3 at home to the Astros and Cubs.

The Astros have basically one major league starter quality player in the lineup and only 1 real major leaguer in the rotation (arguably 2) and a couple of middle relievers. That's all they have.
I would say they overdid the sell-off, but it's not like they traded any position player who was particularly good (last year they did - they traded Pence and Bourne).
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:22 PM
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:35 PM
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3-24 in July, with a run differential of -73 for the month.

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They traded everyone decent for non-MLB ready prospects, and the roster has little quality other than hitters Altuve, Lowrie and J.D. Martinez and pitchers Norris and Lyles, and maybe Wilton Lopez in the pen and they've been thrown to the dogs. And Lowrie may yet get traded.

Plus, they've had injury issues and the bullpen has been a disaster all year. They were 13-15 in May.

Surprised that Brad Mills hasn't been axed yet, especially after the 13 game losing streak. I would have were I the GM. But the rumor is that Luhnow doesn't want to put a placeholder manager in for 2 months and then have to consider them as a candidate after the season. He's got some definitive people in mind.

As an Astros fan, I understand and support what Luhnow is doing, but there has to be something at the big league level, losing 120-130 games is unacceptable.

Next year is a whole different story. Some of the top prospects will be ready to make the leap and since the payroll is at rock bottom Pirates level, they could add a few inexpensive veterans where kids aren't ready to step in or the guys on the roster this year prove they're not good enough. Still rebuilding, but not at a record-setting losses level.

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Old 08-02-2012, 04:47 PM
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They traded everyone decent for non-MLB ready prospects, and the roster has little quality other than hitters Altuve, Lowrie and J.D. Martinez and pitchers Norris and Lyles, and maybe Wilton Lopez in the pen and they've been thrown to the dogs. And Lowrie may yet get traded.

Plus, they've had injury issues and the bullpen has been a disaster all year. They were 13-15 in May.

Surprised that Brad Mills hasn't been axed yet, especially after the 13 game losing streak. I would have were I the GM. But the rumor is that Luhnow doesn't want to put a placeholder manager in for 2 months and then have to consider them as a candidate after the season. He's got some definitive people in mind.

As an Astros fan, I understand and support what Luhnow is doing, but there has to be something at the big league level, losing 120-130 games is unacceptable.

Next year is a whole different story. Some of the top prospects will be ready to make the leap and since the payroll is at rock bottom Pirates level, they could add a few inexpensive veterans where kids aren't ready to step in or the guys on the roster this year prove they're not good enough. Still rebuilding, but not at a record-setting losses level.
Probably my favorite game, computer or console, is Out of the Park Baseball. I wanted a challenge, so I started a game as the Astros the other day. Spent all of 2012 trading prospects for veterans, scouting potential draft picks, and the like. Signed some cheap veterans in the offseason, was off to a decent (just under .500) start in 2013, scouted and drafted again, go to the All-Star Game... and the game crashed, I re-loaded it, but the files were corrupted so I could only go back to before the season.

Even trying to fix the Astros on a video game, they failed!
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Wow, they look like high schoolers.

http://deadspin.com/5932452/the-nati...se-like-morons
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Wow, this looks like high schoolers.

http://deadspin.com/5932452/the-nati...se-like-morons
That's one of the funniest things I've seen in forever. Love the 3B charging and then doing a superman impression to really get the ball rolling.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:29 PM
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That's one of the funniest things I've seen in forever. Love the 3B charging and then doing a superman impression to really get the ball rolling.
I didn't expect the third baseman to do a superman impression. I started laughing when the pitcher and first baseman collided.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:23 PM
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We lost 2/3 at home to the Astros and Cubs.

The Astros have basically one major league starter quality player in the lineup and only 1 real major leaguer in the rotation (arguably 2) and a couple of middle relievers. That's all they have.
I would say they overdid the sell-off, but it's not like they traded any position player who was particularly good (last year they did - they traded Pence and Bourne).
I'd say they have three: Wallace, Altuve and Jowrie(currently on the DL). Still sad all the same.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:44 PM
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I'd say they have three: Wallace, Altuve and Jowrie(currently on the DL). Still sad all the same.
Altuve certainly is; Lowrie is if he can stay off the DL (I didn't count him). Wallace is a 1B with no power.,.,,not ML quality, imo.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:41 PM
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I'd say they have three: Wallace, Altuve and Lowrie(currently on the DL). Still sad all the same.
Wallace has been a bit of a flop at the big league level. The rest of the season is make or break for him, or he'll be swapped for prospects like Chris Johnson.

As far as 1B goes, Jonathan Singleton will be there before too long, maybe even as early as opening day next year. He was the centerpiece of the Hunter Pence deal to Philly.

The third big leaguer in the lineup for the Astros is J.D. Martinez, but his numbers are way down in the second half. He is coming off a shoulder injury, so hopefully his first three months are more the norm for him at the plate.

That video is exhibit 10,000 that Mills should be fired, and should have been a while ago.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:46 PM
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Wow, how did I miss this during the TV highlights?
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:32 PM
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3-24 in July, with a run differential of -73 for the month.

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Maybe Carlos lee was the glue there. They have gone from terrible to god awful since they traded him.
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