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Old 11-14-2012, 01:41 PM
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Jeffrey Loria tells @CBSSports: "We finished in last place! Figure it out.'' http://cbsprt.co/TZTWFf

Loria calls finishing last "unacceptable.'' says, "we have to take a new course." also, he's "absolutely'' not selling team



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Old 11-14-2012, 02:44 PM
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This is a very good and very damning article about Loira and his pal Selig. These two guys are trying to kill another franchise.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/marlins...ves-blame.html
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:16 PM
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Man, this kind of makes me wish Ozzie hadn't gotten fired
Out of curiosity - can Miami force Ozzie to manage this team (after they fired him)? I would think that if they are still on the hook for all his contract, then they could say: "I changed my mind - come back and finish out your contract".
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:27 PM
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Out of curiosity - can Miami force Ozzie to manage this team (after they fired him)? I would think that if they are still on the hook for all his contract, then they could say: "I changed my mind - come back and finish out your contract".
I don't think that's how it works. The Marlins released Ozzie from his obligation, they can't re-obligate him without signing him to a new contract.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:48 PM
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This is a very good and very damning article about Loira and his pal Selig. These two guys are trying to kill another franchise.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/marlins...ves-blame.html
Wow! great read!
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:50 PM
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I was thinking the same thing, another excuse for the haters to pile on the guy yet again.

Give it a rest already.
Are you talking about Loria?

If so, the taxpayers/county might go after him legally. Would you blame them?
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:08 PM
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I don't think that's how it works. The Marlins released Ozzie from his obligation, they can't re-obligate him without signing him to a new contract.
Unless there are specific contractual provisions to the contrary, so long as Ozzie cashes the Marlins' checks, he's still under contract and they could require him to manage again at any time during the duration of the contract. If Ozzie refused, he would be in breach of contract (and the Marlins wouldn't have to pay him anymore).
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:14 PM
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Are you talking about Loria?

If so, the taxpayers/county might go after him legally. Would you blame them?
No, he is talking about his main man Ozzie.
Ozzie could run over his dog on purpose and he would blame the dog for not getting out of Ozzie's way.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:23 PM
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No, he is talking about his main man Ozzie.
Ozzie could run over his dog on purpose and he would blame the dog for not getting out of Ozzie's way.
Oh OK. I went back through the thread but still wasn't sure.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:25 PM
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Unless there are specific contractual provisions to the contrary, so long as Ozzie cashes the Marlins' checks, he's still under contract and they could require him to manage again at any time during the duration of the contract. If Ozzie refused, he would be in breach of contract (and the Marlins wouldn't have to pay him anymore).


Are you sure? Has ANYONE ever done that?
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:44 PM
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Are you sure? Has ANYONE ever done that?
Even though the Marlins fired him, if the Marlins stopped paying Ozzie, wouldn't they be in breach of contract? Just because the Marlins don't want Ozzie to manage their team, doesn't mean they couldn't ask Ozzie to live up to his end of the contract (like they are living up to their end by continuing him to pay him). And if he refused, they likely wouldn't have to pay him anymore. I'm not 100% certain because, like I said earlier, (1) there may be specific language in Ozzie's contract which addresses this very situation and (2) I'm not familiar with Florida contract law. But, like you said, just because Miami could do this; they never would!!
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:44 PM
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Found this intersting:
Miami Marlins: Hechavarria, not Escobar, to start at short in 2013


Looks like they will be moving Yunel if I had to guess.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...t-in-2013.html
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:47 PM
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I am watching MLB Network's "Hot Stove" and I have noticed that no one over there is criticizing Loira specifically. They are mentioning how much of a turn around this trade is for the organization, but no one is suggesting how bad this is for the game and whatever future for baseball is left in Florida. That is a bit disappointing because given Loira's history this sort of thing should have been seen and certainly seems to have the tacit approval of Selig.

I suppose I should add here that I am just mad that Selig allows this guy to still own a team and continue to ruin organizations.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:37 PM
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:35 PM
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Regarding Buehrle, even if he can demand a trade I don't think Toronto can find any takers without eating a big part of that contract. I love Burls, but not at $19M per year for the last two years of his deal.
Well, one team just traded for him. It'd be kind of hard to make the argument no one would trade for that contract under those conditions, I would think.
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