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My opinion on hearing about that trade was "we just ran the table and won the W.S., team chemistry was working, why break things up?". Seven years later, I feel the same.
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The Thome/Rowand deal clearly improved the Sox's weakness from the previous season. If you want to look at a deal that off-season that is more to blame for the Sox's failings post-'05, I think the Vazquez for Young, Vizcaino, and Hernandez deal would be more up your alley. Vazquez never seemed to be able to tap into his talent and solve the pitching problems in '06. Obviously asking 1 pitcher to make or break a rotation is silly, but Vazquez was acquired and expected to be the ace and he never did. Add the breakdowns of Garcia and Contreras in '07 and it was a recipe for disaster, not to mention the Sox gave up a player who could have potentially replaced BA after he proved himself incapable of being an everyday MLB player. But, almost as important, the Sox were just unlucky to be in the wrong division. A 90-win team that finishes in 3rd place is very rare. If the now current play-off system had been in place, we'd at least have gotten 1 last crack at Detroit. Who knows?
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Very good point. The '06 Sox were flawed but still a very good team. The Twins and Tigers played out of their minds that season. This was especially true in the second half.
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Sox seem to have been "unlucky" for most of their existence. They are still the only original franchise (pre expansion) to have never made the post season in consecutive years.
Luck is part of it but to me, not a very large part. Lip |
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Using Brandon McCarthy in the pen instead of as a sixth starter to give Buehrle and Contreras more rest; Playing Mackowiak regularly in CF. I'm not sure these two mistakes were enough to lose the division, but they did cost the Sox a few games.
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The Sox went 2-13 when Ozzie pitched in the second half? Nope, Javy Vazquez. Ozzie blew 3 saves in September down the stretch? Bobby Jenks, actually. I hold no love for Ozzie but are you serious? I guess Ozzie didn't start BA the second game of the year. That's about it. When your starters have a 4.65 ERA it doesn't matter if you have Casey Stengel or Terry Bevington managing, you ain't going nowhere. EDIT: Playing Mack in center being an exception, but in his defense Anderson was thought to be pretty much a sure thing, at least from what I remember. |
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I distinctly remember Mackowiak telling Gonzo in a story how upset he was at his poor play in center field but he also told him that when he came to the Sox he was told by both Kenny and Ozzie that he'd be playing some back up 3rd base and the corner outfield spots. Mack said he didn't even practice that off season on doing any work in center field (and it showed). Mackowiak was a stand up guy who was put in a bad situation. Lip |
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I remember that Big Hurt game fondly, when Mackowiak hit a game-tying HR.
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lost El Duque and brought Viz... ya, that was another head scratcher and many on boards questioned at the time. I think they placed excess faith in the Brian Anderson machine. IIRC, he had an OK debut but Oz insisted BA bat more for power than average; the result was neither power nor avg. Will always cherish a certain catch at end of 2008 tho. Also we really got the best years of Jermaine Dye, he carried the club with his big stick. Till time suddenly caught up. BTW did he ever officially retire? |
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