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View Poll Results: Who is the Worst Big Name or Free Agent Signing in White Sox History?
Adam Dunn- .184/.311/.695 over 2+ seasons 58 32.77%
Steve Sax- .236/.289/.603, ended up in LF 4 2.26%
Cory Snyder- .188/.228/.527- completely lost w/WSox 5 2.82%
Jaime Navarro- 25-43, 6.06 ERA, 1.69 WHIP 100 56.50%
Ron Bloomberg- .231-5-22, 3 years, $600K guaranteed 4 2.26%
Other? 6 3.39%
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:13 AM
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He has changed his approach. They have him swinging a little later. It needs to stop.
In Spring Training, Dunn told the media he needed to be aggressive earlier in counts to cut down on strikeouts and raise his batting average. The thought was that too many pitchers threw him a good pitch to hit on the first one. However, this plan is backfiring on Dunn and putting him behind in the count early. Pitchers have caught on to this and are throwing him poor pitches to hit on the first one. Dunn's game is to work the counts deep and either hit a HR, walk, or K. Now, he is getting no walks because he is swinging early and putting himself in a hole and just striking out all the time.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:13 AM
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Yeah, Dunn's always going to strikeout, but it's not a problem if he's walking a ton and hitting homers. He's doing neither now.
The ratio in 2013 is nearly 5:1 K's vs BB/HR (23 K, 2 HR, 3 BB). His career ratio is about 4:3 (2054K, 408 HR, 1173 BB).
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:16 AM
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Dunn said he's changed his approach in that he's swinging earlier in the count. Maybe that's why he's no longer walking.

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Old 04-21-2013, 10:58 AM
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Have the White Sox EVER just eaten a salary of more than the major league minimum? The only time I can think of the White Sox DFAing a big salary guy was Julio Cruz way back when.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:10 PM
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I guess we'll see how poorly a player can perform, and still remain on a roster. I just can't see the Sox releasing him.
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Article on Dunn's change of approach:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/adam-...ed-experiment/
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:38 PM
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Have the White Sox EVER just eaten a salary of more than the major league minimum? The only time I can think of the White Sox DFAing a big salary guy was Julio Cruz way back when.
Didn't we finally have enough of MacDougal and release him early?
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:40 PM
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He just looked awful striking out once again in the 2nd inning of today's game. Please end this. It's beyond embarassing. If he wasn't being paid such an obscene amount of money I'd feel bad for the guy.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:27 PM
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I understand it might be difficult to bench him, but why is he batting anything higher than 8th? If Rios or Paulie do anything with 2 outs, the inning's pretty much over when he comes up.

I was against Dunn from the first mention of trading for him before he was a free agent. Who cares what he did on a bunch of non-contending NL teams. Just an awful signing.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:29 PM
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I understand it might be difficult to bench him, but why is he batting anything higher than 8th?
Good point. Ventura finally found the right spot for Wise today: 9th. And Dunn should be right down there with him.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:18 PM
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At what point do the Sox do what the Dodgers did with Andruw Jones, release him, and eat the salary? I have to believe the salary is a sunk cost unless Hahn can pull off a miracle and trade him for some relief.
Ha! Fat chance Sox ownership will do that. They'd sooner blame the fans for not supporting the team enough that admit that they're accountable for the Dunn fiasco, cut their losses and eat his contract.

Oct. 2014 (the end of Dunn's contract) seems like it's years away right now.
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:17 PM
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It's scary to think Dunn has been so bad that we'd be better off with Mark Kotsay or Darin Erstad.
At this point, we'd be better off with (almost) 50 year old Darren Jackson batting.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:46 PM
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At this point, we'd be better off with (almost) 50 year old Darren Jackson batting.
Now that's would be a marketing gimmick I would get behind.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:00 PM
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Good point. Ventura finally found the right spot for Wise today: 9th. And Dunn should be right down there with him.
If we have 2 guys batting in the 9th spot, and they both strike out, does it still count as only 1 out?
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:16 PM
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He may have changed his approach, but the fact is he just isn't seeing the ball. He has had plenty of good pitches to hit this year.

Lets be honest, this guy has done little to nothing going on year 3. Sure he rebounded a little last year but still ended up with a pitiful average and was still a boat anchor on the lineup. There has to be a organizational component to this...above average players seem to come to the White Sox and immediately start sucking. There are countless examples.
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